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Old 06-28-2010, 05:28 PM
 
Location: Arizona High Desert
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How about the US digging a 50 foot deep, 50 foot wide trench along the border?
Filled with nasty alligators....
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Old 06-28-2010, 05:32 PM
 
Location: Jonquil City (aka Smyrna) Georgia- by Atlanta
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These are the words of Janet Napolitano in answer to questions concerning sealing the border with Mexico. This woman used to be the Governor of Arizona and I am sure glad she is the head of Homeland Security. Just think, if she hadn't been moved to DC she would have vetoed that Arizona law about illegal aliens and we wouldn't be having all the fun.

Of course, Napolitano is supporting Obama about the not securing the border until Republicans support comprehensive immigration reform. Did Obama tell Senator Kyl that he couldn't allow closing of the border before he got immigration reform? Well Kyl says he did and spokesmen for Obama say it didn't happen. Two men in the room, Obama and Kyl, and these guys know what was said? Pelosi is all I can say about that.

Sealing that border with words in English will never work as well as properly shaped fences and armed guards.

CNSNews.com - Napolitano: (http://www.cnsnews.com/public/content/article.aspx?RsrcID=68494 - broken link)
Border security is not the whole answer or even most of the answer. The REAL answer is to remove the bait that is bringing them here which are JOBS. You take away the jobs and the number of people sneaking in will fall by 90% at least.
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Old 06-28-2010, 05:34 PM
 
Location: Pa
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Border security is not the whole answer or even most of the answer. The REAL answer is to remove the bait that is bringing them here which are JOBS. You take away the jobs and the number of people sneaking in will fall by 90% at least.
Lets not forget consequences.
Employers should face a mandatory sentence.
Illegals should be stripped of all assets to help to offset the cost of deportation.
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Old 06-28-2010, 05:56 PM
 
Location: Missouri
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The "Great Wall of America" is sexy.

Work visa reform is ugly.
Jobs That Will Get You A U.S. Visa - Forbes.com

It always costs more and more to stay sexy, only to turn ugly anyway. So, why not start with ugly and spare the expense?
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Old 06-28-2010, 06:16 PM
 
Location: Wasilla, Alaska
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Lets not forget consequences.
Employers should face a mandatory sentence.
Illegals should be stripped of all assets to help to offset the cost of deportation.
If we enforced existing employment laws, the illegal immigrants will deport themselves at their own expense. Which I think was the whole point of KevK's post. Eliminate their need to be in the US by ensuring only citizens and legal residents of the US get US jobs, and no one else.

No new laws need be enacted, just enforce existing law for a change.
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Old 06-28-2010, 06:28 PM
 
Location: Missouri
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If we enforced existing employment laws, the illegal immigrants will deport themselves at their own expense. Which I think was the whole point of KevK's post. Eliminate their need to be in the US by ensuring only citizens and legal residents of the US get US jobs, and no one else.

No new laws need be enacted, just enforce existing law for a change.
The US offers opportunity for immigrants, legal and illegal. I don't think opportunity will ever be eliminated because we are just not very good at acting against our nature.
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Old 06-28-2010, 06:33 PM
 
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You will NEVER totally seal a border. Never. NO ONE has a completely secure or impenetrable border. No one. It's completely impossible.
What's funny is that there are those who think it can actually be done.

The funny thing is that you do not realize that putting mines, machine guns, and troops on the border could probably reduce illegal immigration from Mexico 99%.

No one is asking for 100% success, as that is impossible. However, putting mines, guns, and troops on the border would dramatically cut illegal immigration and markedly cut Obama's new pool of constituents.
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Old 06-28-2010, 06:39 PM
 
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Any excuse not to enforce current immigration laws and to fail to secure our borders. It is the planned distruction of America by the Progressives (yes, Bush was one too).
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Old 06-28-2010, 06:48 PM
 
Location: Pa
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If we enforced existing employment laws, the illegal immigrants will deport themselves at their own expense. Which I think was the whole point of KevK's post. Eliminate their need to be in the US by ensuring only citizens and legal residents of the US get US jobs, and no one else.

No new laws need be enacted, just enforce existing law for a change.
Even when enforced existing laws still allow to great a profit margin. But I agree with you 100% enforce existing laws. Writing new laws with no intention to enforce will serve no purpose.
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Old 06-28-2010, 06:56 PM
 
Location: Lake Norman, North Carolina
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You will NEVER totally seal a border. Never. NO ONE has a completely secure or impenetrable border. No one. It's completely impossible.
What's funny is that there are those who think it can actually be done.

You can never totally seal a border, so why even try? Is that your reasoning? Put enough armed NG patrolling the border and that stampede of 3000 to 5000 unwanted uninvited border jumpers breaking in every day, day after day, will be reduced to a trickle. In the interests of national security the BP would then be able to handle completely a trickle of uninvited unwanted border jumpers as compared to the hordes breaking in now that the BP only tries to stop.
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