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Old 07-02-2010, 09:20 AM
 
Location: Sacramento, Ca
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...thats why the border should be kept open, for these kind, hardworking people to have a means to make a better life, right?


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At least 21 people have been killed in a gunfight between two of Mexico's most powerful drug cartels near the border with the US, officials have said.
The incident occurred off a remote dirt track near the city of Nogales, in the northern state of Sonora, they said.
Nine people have been arrested, six of whom were wounded in the confrontation.
Correspondents say gangs are involved in smuggling drugs and people to the US, and have been battling for control of the area - a key trafficking route.

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Old 07-02-2010, 09:34 AM
 
Location: 3rd rock from the sun
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It's two different issues. While there is some over-lap - most illegals are not involved in supplying the needs of American pot-heads.
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Old 07-02-2010, 09:40 AM
 
Location: San Diego
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It's two different issues. While there is some over-lap - most illegals are not involved in supplying the needs of American pot-heads.
True, they are more interested in parting Americans from their money, both legally and illegally.
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Old 07-02-2010, 09:47 AM
 
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True, they are more interested in parting Americans from their money, both legally and illegally.
Yup, but I think that a lot of illegal immigrants aren't aware of what they are doing to legal residents and citizens and what they are taking from them. That's the problem with illegal immigration and various government's approach to it. They play the "They are just here for a better life" approach, but they ignore the effects on people who are already here. There are numerous negative effects of the illegal immigration that this country goes through and the government can't just ignore those things because of "Oh poor illegal immigrants, they only come here for a better life."

Once the government stops making what happens to us (legal residents) less important than the illegal immigrants quest for a better life, we'll be OK. However, for now, for some reason, the Obama administration and the governments are making illegal immigrants needs more important than ours.
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Old 07-02-2010, 09:51 AM
 
Location: Maryland
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It's two different issues. While there is some over-lap - most illegals are not involved in supplying the needs of American pot-heads.
What is the basis for your assertion? If we don’t even know “who” they are, how can you assume what percentage are involved in drug trafficking or other criminal enterprises? After all, they are here for money. I doubt they care how they get it.
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Old 07-02-2010, 11:29 AM
 
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What is the basis for your assertion? If we don’t even know “who” they are, how can you assume what percentage are involved in drug trafficking or other criminal enterprises? After all, they are here for money. I doubt they care how they get it.
Many illegals are trafficked by a coyote and 2 forms of payment are required. Either cold hard cash in US dollars or if you don't have the money, you need to sneak drugs across the border, sell it, and give the proceeds to the coyote, or suffer the consequences
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Old 07-02-2010, 11:36 AM
 
Location: Maryland
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Many illegals are trafficked by a coyote and 2 forms of payment are required. Either cold hard cash in US dollars or if you don't have the money, you need to sneak drugs across the border, sell it, and give the proceeds to the coyote, or suffer the consequences
Yes, I have heard that. Given that many do not have the cash, it is not farfetched to assume they are in fact bringing drugs into this country to “earn” their illegal entry. I don’t know why so many are hell-bent on portraying illegals as being paragons of virtue.
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Old 07-02-2010, 11:39 AM
 
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Yes, I have heard that. Given that many do not have the cash, it is not farfetched to assume they are in fact bringing drugs into this country to “earn” their illegal entry. I don’t know why so many are hell-bent on portraying illegals as being paragons of virtue.
I don't know either but since when do bleeding hearts make sense? Their thinking patterns are based around warm fuzzy feelings, not logic
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Old 07-02-2010, 11:50 AM
 
Location: The #1 sunshine state, Arizona.
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We have a 9.5% unemployment rate. How many more unskilled laborers do we need. The slave wages they earn can't support their household. We pay welfare for their anchor babies, while they wire their paychecks back to Mexico. Seal the border.

If your home was is invaded by mice, would you first set the traps, or seal all the openings to prevent more mice from entering your home?
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Old 07-02-2010, 11:57 AM
 
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We have a 9.5% unemployment rate. How many more unskilled laborers do we need. The slave wages they earn can't support their household. We pay welfare for their anchor babies, while they wire their paychecks back to Mexico. Seal the border.
That's what I keep saying, and to also limit legal immigration even more. The amount of LEGAL immigrants we let in every year, let alone illegals, is unsustainable.
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