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Because the Hispanic population want a solution to the illegal immigration situation via comprehensive immigration reform. They don't want every itinerint 5th cousin coming to America trying to leach off their family no more than you do. The impression Hispanics have is that the hard line republicans want all illegals to immediately be deported back to their homeland and oppose any rational immigration reform. They will unite against this hard line inhumane mentality. Not because they are ethnocentric and want to retake the western Us back for Mexico as some would claim.
Wrong. You never saw La Raza get out and protests when Haitian boat people were rounded up in Miami and sent back to Haiti. They are very very ethnocentric.
They want unlimited immigration from hispanic countries but they aren't stupid enough to believe that all of Asia, Africa should have unlimited immigration rights. They don't want immigration except by "their group".
Less turnout would hurt a Democratic candidate's chances. Not as much as votes against him, though.
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black ppl may not even vote
than suport a bad dem
If "La Raza" wants "unlimited immigration" rights, they won't get it. No high government official will seriously consider that idea.
I consider the US flag-waving anti illegal extremists and the Mexican or other foreign flag-waving extremist "La Raza" community-advocacy groups two sides of the same coin. They can go make each other miserable. No really, they should go harass each other while those of us in the middle eat popcorn and laugh.
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Wrong. You never saw La Raza get out and protests when Haitian boat people were rounded up in Miami and sent back to Haiti. They are very very ethnocentric.
They want unlimited immigration from hispanic countries but they aren't stupid enough to believe that all of Asia, Africa should have unlimited immigration rights. They don't want immigration except by "their group".
Did you all read the official paperwork from the federal government that challenges the law? It's comedy. Here is one chunk from it:
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In our constitutional system, the federal government has preeminent authority to
regulate immigration matters. This authority derives from the United States Constitution and
numerous acts of Congress. The nation’s immigration laws reflect a careful and considered
balance of national law enforcement, foreign relations, and humanitarian interests.
SO ... do we, the US citizens and legal residents, get considered in all of this? The federal government is basically saying that they put foreign relations and "humanitarian interests" first before the interests of the US people. It's not very humanitarian to the people of this country for the federal government to allow illegal immigration to go uncontrolled.
Did you all read the official paperwork from the federal government that challenges the law? It's comedy. Here is one chunk from it:
SO ... do we, the US citizens and legal residents, get considered in all of this? The federal government is basically saying that they put foreign relations and "humanitarian interests" first before the interests of the US people. It's not very humanitarian to the people of this country for the federal government to allow illegal immigration to go uncontrolled.
Yes, I read that. The global masters are putting their foot down on their little puppets Obama, and his administration.
If the Mexican government gets pissed off, there could go all those NAU deals and plans, Walmart and Bank of America, the NAU highways and all of it could be jeopardized.
Arizona is disrupting the NAU and all those big goals they have.
With millions of Americans out of work the great Hispandering Traitor Obama is siding with criminal Illegal Alien Parasites and is going to sue Arizona!!!!
Time to impeach this TRAITOR NOW !!!!
Impeach Obama for treason and not upholding the Law and Sovereignity of the USA !!!!
Get rid of Obama and his worthless attorney general Eric Holder, both of whom are wasting their time and tax-payer money on this law suit instead of doing their job to protect the southern borders.
The reason for this law suit - They're saying it's not up to individual states to set their immigration policy. Well that's fine, but it's also up to the State of Arizona to protect its southern borders because the Feds are not doing their job. We're also not talking about Legal Immigration, we're talking about illegals and criminals coming across the border and causing all kinds of problems.
US Citizens have been considered, and it was decided a long time ago that the executive branch of the federal government will have direct authority over those matters.
SoEdible, the main principle of the US Constitution is that it forbids "Mob rule" - unreasonable rule from a majority of people, especially one that harms a minority. The founding fathers, especially the federalists, were fearful of direct rule.
The US Citizens have an indirect role, in choosing the president.
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Did you all read the official paperwork from the federal government that challenges the law? It's comedy. Here is one chunk from it:
SO ... do we, the US citizens and legal residents, get considered in all of this? The federal government is basically saying that they put foreign relations and "humanitarian interests" first before the interests of the US people. It's not very humanitarian to the people of this country for the federal government to allow illegal immigration to go uncontrolled.
Considering the Constitution spells out the federal government's role, and that the federal government would not dare waste money on a frivolous lawsuit, the federal government is fruitfully and justifiably using our taxpayer funds for this lawsuit.
If the federal lawsuit succeeds, Mike, you need to say that Arizona wasted its time and money in crafting a bill that would be ruled unconstitutional. Alright? If it fails, it was still a case that needed to be examined, so in that case there was no "waste" of federal funds. The only time there is a waste is if the federal funds are used for a frivolous lawsuit.
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Get rid of Obama and his worthless attorney general Eric Holder, both of whom are wasting their time and tax-payer money on this law suit instead of doing their job to protect the southern borders.
The reason for this law suit - They're saying it's not up to individual states to set their immigration policy. Well that's fine, but it's also up to the State of Arizona to protect its southern borders because the Feds are not doing their job. We're also not talking about Legal Immigration, we're talking about illegals and criminals coming across the border and causing all kinds of problems.
As this discussion heats up, I'd like to ask everyone to remain respectful toward each other. You have every right to be angry with what is going on, but city-data is not your personal vent space.
Yac.
US Citizens have been considered, and it was decided a long time ago that the executive branch of the federal government will have direct authority over those matters.
SoEdible, the main principle of the US Constitution is that it forbids "Mob rule" - unreasonable rule from a majority of people, especially one that harms a minority. The founding fathers, especially the federalists, were fearful of direct rule.
The US Citizens have an indirect role, in choosing the president.
Considering the Constitution spells out the federal government's role, and that the federal government would not dare waste money on a frivolous lawsuit, the federal government is fruitfully and justifiably using our taxpayer funds for this lawsuit.
If the federal lawsuit succeeds, Mike, you need to say that Arizona wasted its time and money in crafting a bill that would be ruled unconstitutional. Alright? If it fails, it was still a case that needed to be examined, so in that case there was no "waste" of federal funds. The only time there is a waste is if the federal funds are used for a frivolous lawsuit.
Very frivolous...........and if they don't want to do their job, then we will do it. Maybe a few so called leaders should be deported since they are not helping us out.
You need to look at the whole picture. This really has nothing to do with Obama. Bush was even supporting open borders. Why, because Obama and Bush are the front man for the same cartel. You could put another puppet in the presidency and the result will be the same.
Now that is what I call pretty over the edge..Too many, like you believe everything is a conspiracy. I don't believe Bush wanted truely open borders. He may have leaned toward some form of Anmenty.
The difference in this case: a state took action and our President has decided to sue. We don't know what Bush would have done given the same situation? So, there is a huge difference.
Very frivolous...........and if they don't want to do their job, then we will do it. Maybe a few so called leaders should be deported since they are not helping us out.
This is what the federal government sits back and allows to go on.
You really have to wonder why.
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