What if 20 Million Illegal Aliens Vacated America (law, christmas, Mexicans)

[chicagonut]

Originally Posted by {geek}

It could be done and we'd save money. For every year they aren't here, it's more of our own money we get to invest in our own citizens, schools, roads, hospitals, etc.

They are a BURDEN to this country and offer ZERO in return.

They need to start with building the border fence from one end to the other. Why bother with using wire fencing, wood fencing, etc., like they've been doing? The idiots just jump it, cut through it, or dig under it. If they put up a blockade wall made from actual boulders (as in rocks from Mountains) they'd be too high to jump, can't cut through them, and way too dangerous (due to weight) to tunnel under it.

OP, thanks for posting this!

Actually the double layered concrete wall works really well where it has been erected. We were supposed to get at least 700 miles of it but I am not sure how many miles were actually completed. Didn't Obama just recently halt the building of that wall?

[GreXican]

For starters, unemployment would get a LOT better.
With 12-20 million people leaving, with let's say 8 million or so having jobs, that's 8 million jobs available for American citizens. I'm sure almost all of those jobs are jobs American's will do.

[chicagonut]

Originally Posted by GreXican

For starters, unemployment would get a LOT better.
With 12-20 million people leaving, with let's say 8 million or so having jobs, that's 8 million jobs available for American citizens. I'm sure almost all of those jobs are jobs American's will do.

Oh no, didn't you get the memo? The 8 million are all crop pickers.

[Opyelie]

Originally Posted by banevader

1) Not even the Justice Department is stating that there are 20 million illegal aliens in the US,OP. More like 12 million.

and they were quoting 13 million over 10 years ago...........

[theunbrainwashed]

I am for militarizing the border, building a fence, and shooting at illegals who continue to run in our borders when they were being ordered to stop running. Any smugglers who shoot at the border patrol must be killed, as it routinely happens because those smugglers are well-armed with assault rifles and the like. The fence really needs to be put up with guard towers set up on even intervals.

We need to pass laws, at least on the state level since the feds wouldn't probably do it, of penalizing businesses with a hefty (at least half a million) fine per illegal worker.

[LuckyGem]

Originally Posted by 1AngryTaxPayer

But but but the cost of tomatoes would go up something like .15 cents a pound!

Or we could put inmates in the fields to pick the veggies and the cost wouldn't have to go up one cent, in fact it would go down.

[majoun]

Originally Posted by LuckyGem

Or we could put inmates in the fields to pick the veggies and the cost wouldn't have to go up one cent, in fact it would go down.

That would do nothing to solve the problems created by illegal immigration (which are overwhelmingly of an economic nature).

[mkfarnam]

Originally Posted by banevader

1) Not even the Justice Department is stating that there are 20 million illegal aliens in the US,OP. More like 12 million.
2) Since rounding aliens and deporting would cost as much ,if not more, than leaving them in place,why would there be a rush to spend more than we are currently doing?
3) HOW could they all be rounded up? This logistical and legal nightmare is never addressed by anybody complaining about immigration.
4) What would happen when an American citizen (something that is certain to happen) is either detained or deported due to a "mistake" made by the government?

There are many more "what if's" in removing illegal aliens from the US,but since none of the above are even being addressed,then it's doubtful that this is even being seriously considered by the government.

You have a lot of learning to do.

[mkfarnam]

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Originally Posted by tinman01

1,2,3 have been debunked many times over.
#4 Would be unlikely. Birth certificates, SSn's etc. Not at all likely.
#1. No one knows how many are actually here. Only wild guesses. But illegals like anything are bound to be more numerous than expected.
How many criminals are there in this country? We only know about the ones who have been caught.
2. Passing tough laws combined with strict enforcement will drive illegals away. No need to round them up. Most will opt to self seport. If they can't work, rent, or get any form of assistance they will have but 1 option and that is to leave. We have seen the evidence in places where they cracked down on illegals. They leave before getting caught.
3. How will they be rounded up? Number 2 answered this already. But if we pass laws requiring schools and hospitals to report? Hmmm I would think that this would be of help.
Add to this require landlords to list all people who dwell in their housing including SSN's and we will see the illegals running for the borders as ICE raids focus on all and not just some illegals.
Move on to confiscating all assets of any illegal caught, huge fines and jail terms for those who hire them to include Joe cheap skate trolling homeDepot parking lots. They will have no means to work or support themselves.
Nail the facilitators who give shelter to illegals. Yes that includes the churches who are confused by seperation of church and state.
Not impossible.

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The cost from fines alone would cover any type of deportatation needed.

[mkfarnam]

Originally Posted by chicagonut

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Ridding our country of illegal aliens would be a net plus not a net negative. I guess you are new in here because many of us have said there would be no need for some huge roundup. They would self-deport without jobs via e-verify and denying them any benefits in this country such as birthright citizenship for their anchors. That would also negate your suggestion that Americans could be caught up in some huge roundup, wouldn't it?

The Arizona law hasn't even gone in affect yet but has caused many to either re-locate or go back to their homelands. Think about what it would be like if all of our states implemented laws like Arizonas. Self-deportation is the answer. There would be no costs associated with that.

All of the above has been addressed in here and everywhere else. It is just that the pro-illegals don't like our solutions as they have their eye on amensty/CIR instead and that is not in the best interests of this country nor its citizens.

11 million illegals were the estimate in the early 90's...It's been close to 2 deccades since then.