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Old 05-18-2012, 04:35 AM
 
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The mainstream language of the US is English, as is the language of the Internet.
That doesnt mean its official.

 
Old 05-18-2012, 05:29 AM
 
Location: Vermont
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how about this instead. make english the only language and make it so when people call on the phone, only english is available. if whoever is calling cant speak english, then obviously they need to learn it. not our fault they cannot learn the language of that country.
How do you do that?

Seriously, how do you "make English the only language"?

Outlaw foreign language classes in the schools?
Equip the telephone network with monitors that would detect the language being spoken and terminate any such conversation?
Submit all immigrants, students, entertainers, athletes, and tourists to a pre-admission language test and bar all entrants not fluent in English?
Post government agents on street corners and arrest anyone heard speaking a language other than English?

Can you cite the example of any country that has eradicated the use of all foreign languages from its borders, and how it was accomplished?
 
Old 05-18-2012, 06:51 AM
 
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how about this instead. make english the only language and make it so when people call on the phone, only english is available. if whoever is calling cant speak english, then obviously they need to learn it. not our fault they cannot learn the language of that country.
This isn't about teaching "immigrants" English anyway. It is about expending our time and dollars teaching illegal aliens English who have no right to even be in this country. Then they give birth on our soil and their kids only learn their parent's native langauge at home and enter our school system not knowing English either.
 
Old 05-18-2012, 06:57 AM
 
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How do you do that?

Seriously, how do you "make English the only language"?

Outlaw foreign language classes in the schools?
Equip the telephone network with monitors that would detect the language being spoken and terminate any such conversation?
Submit all immigrants, students, entertainers, athletes, and tourists to a pre-admission language test and bar all entrants not fluent in English?
Post government agents on street corners and arrest anyone heard speaking a language other than English?

Can you cite the example of any country that has eradicated the use of all foreign languages from its borders, and how it was accomplished?

We do have TOEFEL
We do have naturalization requirements to know English in some cases the elderly are exempt.
We do have more than 1/2 the U.S states that have English as the official language.

You have a problem with that?
 
Old 05-18-2012, 07:11 AM
 
Location: Vermont
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We do have TOEFEL
We do have naturalization requirements to know English in some cases the elderly are exempt.
We do have more than 1/2 the U.S states that have English as the official language.

You have a problem with that?
So we already have all those things and English is still not "the only language" spoken in the United States, which is what Monkeywrenching is arguing for.

So how are you going to make it happen?
 
Old 05-18-2012, 07:27 AM
 
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So we already have all those things and English is still not "the only language" spoken in the United States, which is what Monkeywrenching is arguing for.

So how are you going to make it happen?
Because the U.S is a salad bowl.
We uncontrolled illegal immigration.

We need to deport all the illegals & clarify the birthright citizenship.
 
Old 05-18-2012, 09:37 AM
 
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So we already have all those things and English is still not "the only language" spoken in the United States, which is what Monkeywrenching is arguing for.

So how are you going to make it happen?
I won't speak for the person you are replying to but I think most of us just want lingual assimilation out in mainstream America. I don't care if someone is having a private conversation off in a corner somewhere or in their own homes in a foreign language. I do think we need to make English our "official" language on the federal level as it will help non-native English speakers assimilate and it would save a lot of federal tax dollars not having to print documents in several different languages.
 
Old 05-18-2012, 09:38 AM
 
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Because the U.S is a salad bowl.
We uncontrolled illegal immigration.

We need to deport all the illegals & clarify the birthright citizenship.
Actually, we are a melting pot. "Out of any one". Otherwise I agree with you.
 
Old 05-18-2012, 11:06 AM
 
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how about this instead. make english the only language and make it so when people call on the phone, only english is available. if whoever is calling cant speak english, then obviously they need to learn it. not our fault they cannot learn the language of that country.
Clearly, you hate private enterprise. If there's a market for, say, Korean-language banking (there is), who are you to tell the banks that they can't have a Korean option on their phone tree?
 
Old 05-18-2012, 12:17 PM
 
Location: Vermont
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I won't speak for the person you are replying to but I think most of us just want lingual assimilation out in mainstream America.
I think most people want that, both people who were born here and people who come here without being able to speak English.

Which is why it was so bizarre that the original poster started out by whining about people coming to the United States being able to take classes to learn to speak English.
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