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Old 07-28-2010, 02:35 PM
 
Location: Orlando, FL
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PRESS ONE TO SPEAK ENGLISH !

I notice now we the tax payers are setting up classes for immigrants to use english as a second language .

What the hell is wrong with just english and unless your home shut the hell up .

Aanyone else tied of the nerve these foreigners have when they come here with all their needs and want us to change for them ?
I'm glad they're learning how to speak English. Now perhaps when I have to go to a government building there will be someone there I can understand.

 
Old 07-28-2010, 03:12 PM
 
Location: West Michigan
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Actually... yeah they did. Have you never actually been to a historic Little Italy or China town? What language (for example) is all the signage in?


When my Sicilian great grandfather died after 40 years in Little Italy in 1963, he had learned a couple of other Italian dialects... but essentially no English.


So it is. So it has always been.
Same with my Italian grandparents and they died back in the 40s. If they had had English classes back then my grandparents would have been the first to sign up as they were very proud to be naturalized citizens. English classes are a good investment for the tax payers.
 
Old 07-28-2010, 03:19 PM
 
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Originally Posted by Pappy&Me View Post
PRESS ONE TO SPEAK ENGLISH !

I notice now we the tax payers are setting up classes for immigrants to use english as a second language .

What the hell is wrong with just english and unless your home shut the hell up .

Aanyone else tied of the nerve these foreigners have when they come here with all their needs and want us to change for them ?
So you want all immigrants to be able to speak English...yet you're opposed to classes for immigrants to actually learn English?

Okay dokey...
 
Old 07-28-2010, 04:07 PM
 
Location: Long Beach
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So you want all immigrants to be able to speak English...yet you're opposed to classes for immigrants to actually learn English?

Okay dokey...
Welcome to Conservative logic! Boggles the mind, doesn't it?
 
Old 07-28-2010, 05:05 PM
 
Location: Camberville
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My great great grandparents moved to the USA from Russia in the first part of the 20th centuries. Their children served in WWI and WWII but they lived their lives functioning ENTIRELY in Yiddish/Russian. Even some of my great grandparents and their siblings, born here, were more comfortable speaking Yiddish in most situations and conducted the businesses they opened here largely in Yiddish.

So this is nothing new.

Most ESL classes are taught by volunteers. The ones that aren't often charge a fee and have waiting lists (including the program at a multi-service center where I interned- 1 year waiting list).
 
Old 07-28-2010, 09:04 PM
 
Location: Foot of the Rockies
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Did Italians speak English when the stepped off the boat? Did Greeks or the French when they came from Quebec to work in the mills of New England? Did the Germans who moved to Chicago or Milwaukee? Were captured African slaves taught English on the boat ride over as a way of killing time?
Did this Country cater to immigrants in the past like they do now??
NO!If i speak spanish only i can literally get everything in spanish.
I could basically get by knowing not one word of english.
TV,Radio,Government forms,DL test,Customer service,etc
This has been answered in part, but I thought I'd add this link to the discussion.

Harvard Kennedy School - A Better Welcome for Our Nation's Immigrants

A century ago, religious, civic and business groups and government provided classes in English and citizenship. Historian Thomas P. Vadasz found that in Bethlehem, Pa., a thriving town of about 20,000, roughly two-thirds of whom were immigrants, the biggest employer, Bethlehem Steel, and the local YMCA offered free English instruction to thousands of immigrants in the early 20th century, even paying them to take classes. Today, immigrants face long waiting lists for English classes, even ones they pay for.

There have long been alternative language newspapers and so forth in the US. My in-laws come from a town in Nebraska with a huge Swedish population, and until fairly recently the restaurants had menus in Swedish. My church gave services in Swedish until some time in the 1960s, this in Boulder, Colorado.
 
Old 07-28-2010, 09:16 PM
 
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PRESS ONE TO SPEAK ENGLISH !

I notice now we the tax payers are setting up classes for immigrants to use english as a second language .

What the hell is wrong with just english and unless your home shut the hell up .

Aanyone else tied of the nerve these foreigners have when they come here with all their needs and want us to change for them ?
There were over 500 languages and not one of them was English......when your pappy was getting off his disease infested immigrant boat.

Fvmpe cesse!
 
Old 07-28-2010, 09:17 PM
 
Location: Palm Springs, CA
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So you want all immigrants to be able to speak English...yet you're opposed to classes for immigrants to actually learn English?

Okay dokey...
Yes, apparently they're supposed to learn it back in Somalia before they come to the U.S.
 
Old 07-28-2010, 09:41 PM
 
Location: 3rd rock from the sun
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I was amused watching "Bait Car" last week. The cars were setup in south/central Los Angeles and the perps were mainly latino/cholo types. In the privacy of the stolen cars (w/ hidden cameras) they were speaking to each other in English (sounding like Chech in Cheech & Chong) - not Spanish. Either they were born here or were recent immigrants - but it shows that even the criminal elements are Americanizing & learning English.
 
Old 07-28-2010, 09:46 PM
 
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I feel the love . Hey push back to exit the thread .

I think it will be the lungs first but at my age it could be the head .

What has this to do with the subject though ?
It was really, really funny.
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