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Old 07-29-2010, 07:49 AM
 
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Has the ruling by the Arizona judge just granted the illegals "superior citizen" status? I am required by the police in our state to present a driver's liscence if and when I am pulled over for a traffic violation. I am required to present proof of citizenship (birth certificate) when obtaining my liscence.

Has the federal judge in Arizona just given the illegals the right to refuse presentation of ID (which could only be obtained by citizenship proof) to officers of the law? I think the next time I am pulled over (I speed alot), I will refuse the officer to see my liscence and registration to precipitate a law suit against the state. I doubt very much that selective enforcement based on my race will hold up for them in court and it would be well worth the money.
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Old 07-29-2010, 08:05 AM
 
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Has the ruling by the Arizona judge just granted the illegals "superior citizen" status? I am required by the police in our state to present a driver's liscence if and when I am pulled over for a traffic violation. I am required to present proof of citizenship (birth certificate) when obtaining my liscence.

Has the federal judge in Arizona just given the illegals the right to refuse presentation of ID (which could only be obtained by citizenship proof) to officers of the law? I think the next time I am pulled over (I speed alot), I will refuse the officer to see my liscence and registration to precipitate a law suit against the state. I doubt very much that selective enforcement based on my race will hold up for them in court and it would be well worth the money.
It is amazing, isn't it? I am an American citizen. When I moved to a new state and went to apply for a new license, I presented my license from the state where I had moved from (still current.) But, I was sent home to fetch the necessary birth certificate. DH had to have cleared up a "hold" placed on his license related to speeding tickets from 30 years ago in a different state before getting his new license issued. I recently traveled "abroad" to Canada and was required to show my passport 5 times before reentering the U.S.

Why?
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Old 07-29-2010, 08:08 AM
 
Location: South Fla
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its telling people that being illegal is. Come here take our jobs, Use our resources. Make yourself at home. To heck with it you commit crimes against the citizens of this nation.

You are above all that. We are going to treat you special because we want the hispanic vote.

All criminals now need to say they shouldnt be prosecuted because illegals arent. Seems only fair. Ctiziens commit a crime they are punished. Illegals arent
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Why should we have to show id or prove anything when an illegal doesnt. Heck lets all become undocumented. Since there is special treatment for them
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Old 07-29-2010, 08:10 AM
 
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It is amazing, isn't it? I am an American citizen. When I moved to a new state and went to apply for a new license, I presented my license from the state where I had moved from (still current.) But, I was sent home to fetch the necessary birth certificate. DH had to have cleared up a "hold" placed on his license related to speeding tickets from 30 years ago in a different state before getting his new license issued. I recently traveled "abroad" to Canada and was required to show my passport 5 times before reentering the U.S.

Why?
You make perfect sense. All of these petty, ridiculous arguments and excuses by the left are baseless and just dont hold water.
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Old 07-29-2010, 08:13 AM
 
Location: Texas
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What's even funnier is that there is a FEDERAL law that says if you are a resident alien here on a visa/green card, YOU MUST carry documents that confirm this status with you at all times.

So let me see...you have to carry your ID if you are legal...but let's make some hoopla about maybe catching some illegals by asking for ID that you're already supposed to carry...strangely circularly strange.

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Old 07-29-2010, 08:13 AM
 
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Has the ruling by the Arizona judge just granted the illegals "superior citizen" status? I am required by the police in our state to present a driver's liscence if and when I am pulled over for a traffic violation. I am required to present proof of citizenship (birth certificate) when obtaining my liscence.

Has the federal judge in Arizona just given the illegals the right to refuse presentation of ID (which could only be obtained by citizenship proof) to officers of the law? I think the next time I am pulled over (I speed alot), I will refuse the officer to see my liscence and registration to precipitate a law suit against the state. I doubt very much that selective enforcement based on my race will hold up for them in court and it would be well worth the money.
I agree but your little aside "I speed alot" and "the next time" as you are sure there will indeed be a next time just cracked me up! Love your honesty and self knowledge! Thanks for the chuckle.
Oh, p.s. I am a reformed member of your club. I use to speed a lot too!
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Old 07-29-2010, 08:27 AM
 
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Well - police would have to profile in order to ascertain that someone might be an American citizen so I don't believe they can ask anyone for any kind of ID document now.

Or is the Obama administration racist against the American people so that Americans can be asked to show a drivers license but illegals must never be asked?

This was one of the stupidest rulings by a judge ever - and it shows clearly what their agenda is. Illegals are certainly a protected class of people who are not expected to abide by any law - unless the Mexican government says so.
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Old 07-29-2010, 08:36 AM
 
Location: People's Republic of California
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Does that mean now if get pulled over, all I have to do is speak Spanish and I will be let go with no ticket or any other punishment? I realize that was how the illegals were being treated before the ruling but now it's actually 'legal'?
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Old 07-29-2010, 10:05 AM
 
Location: Arizona High Desert
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This law is full of holes. What is wrong with this picture ? Would any other country put up with US citizens waltzing in, demanding special status ? I would hope they had the balls to kick my sorry self out of their country.
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Old 07-29-2010, 10:31 AM
 
Location: 3rd rock from the sun
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Has the ruling by the Arizona judge just granted the illegals "superior citizen" status? I am required by the police in our state to present a driver's liscence if and when I am pulled over for a traffic violation. I am required to present proof of citizenship (birth certificate) when obtaining my liscence.

Has the federal judge in Arizona just given the illegals the right to refuse presentation of ID (which could only be obtained by citizenship proof) to officers of the law? I think the next time I am pulled over (I speed alot), I will refuse the officer to see my liscence and registration to precipitate a law suit against the state. I doubt very much that selective enforcement based on my race will hold up for them in court and it would be well worth the money.
The injunction does not prevent police officers from demanding driver's licenses, registration & proof of insurance. It just precludes them from requiring proof of citizenship or immigration status & detaining people on that basis.
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