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Old 07-29-2010, 01:04 PM
 
Location: Wichita,Kansas
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Feb 2, 1848 the Treaty of Guadalupe Hidalgo was signed.
Mexico agreed to and was given money for the states of TX,CA,NV,AZ..
NM,UT and part of CO.The treaty gave citizenship to Mexican citizens..
In the newly purchased lands. There were approximately 80,000 Mexicans in the areas of California, New Mexico, Arizona and Texas during this period and they made up about 20% of the population.
The Gadsden purchase was also signed in 1853 that gave parts of..
Southern AZ and NM to the United States.

 
Old 07-29-2010, 01:06 PM
 
Location: #
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Is this the way you defend legislation that is so blatantly unconstitutional?
 
Old 07-29-2010, 01:12 PM
 
Location: New Jersey
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Is this the way you defend legislation that is so blatantly unconstitutional?
The most important thing the US federal government can do is protect the country from invasion.

Any other issues are secondary to that one.

If the feds won't do it, the states will. It's a matter of survival.
 
Old 07-29-2010, 01:12 PM
 
Location: 3rd rock from the sun
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Treaty of Guadalupe Hidalgo - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Mexico didn't have much choice. The US had invaded Mexico and captured major cities including Mexico City. Guadalupe Hidalgo was the Mexico City suburb where the treaty was signed. The choices were either agree to the treaty or we don't leave.
 
Old 07-29-2010, 01:12 PM
 
Location: Southern Willamette Valley, Oregon
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This thread is dedicated to another CD user that is highly dillusional. He knows who he is. Let's see if he responds.
 
Old 07-29-2010, 01:15 PM
 
Location: Wichita,Kansas
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Is this the way you defend legislation that is so blatantly unconstitutional?
Im not a huge fan of the specific part of the AZ law you refer to.
However it did get other states passing tougher laws.
I would like to see the people who employ illegals more the focus.
 
Old 07-29-2010, 01:17 PM
 
Location: Pa
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Treaty of Guadalupe Hidalgo - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Mexico didn't have much choice. The US had invaded Mexico and captured major cities including Mexico City. Guadalupe Hidalgo was the Mexico City suburb where the treaty was signed. The choices were either agree to the treaty or we don't leave.
And so the history of the world defined maps and borders of just about every country on the planet.
Mexico recognizes the areas mentioned as US land.
International law recognizes this as well.
200 years ago Joe smoe cheated Dick harry out of his farm while playing poker.
200 years later Dick Harry's descendants can lay claim to this land?
No I don't think so.
Mexico had a choice. They made their choice and the people who live in those states are better for this choice.
 
Old 07-29-2010, 01:21 PM
 
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Treaty of Guadalupe Hidalgo - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Mexico didn't have much choice. The US had invaded Mexico and captured major cities including Mexico City. Guadalupe Hidalgo was the Mexico City suburb where the treaty was signed. The choices were either agree to the treaty or we don't leave.
Awww, poor Mexico. Because of conflict with the US they were forced to "give up" lands they won by war from Spain, who acquired the land by conquest of Native peoples.

Sounds to me like Mexico really wasn't ready to control the land they acquired by force.
 
Old 07-29-2010, 01:22 PM
 
Location: Texas State Fair
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Treaty of Guadalupe Hidalgo - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Mexico didn't have much choice. The US had invaded Mexico and captured major cities including Mexico City. Guadalupe Hidalgo was the Mexico City suburb where the treaty was signed. The choices were either agree to the treaty or we don't leave.
WOW ! ! ! So, there's a country called Mexico by the graces of a treaty promoted by the U.S. The U.S. actually giving Mexicans their own territory, their own home, their own place to live.

And look what they've done with it. If they can't maintain their own country, why would we want them here?
 
Old 07-29-2010, 01:32 PM
 
Location: 3rd rock from the sun
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And so the history of the world defined maps and borders of just about every country on the planet.
Mexico recognizes the areas mentioned as US land.
International law recognizes this as well.
200 years ago Joe smoe cheated Dick harry out of his farm while playing poker.
200 years later Dick Harry's descendants can lay claim to this land?
No I don't think so.
Mexico had a choice. They made their choice and the people who live in those states are better for this choice.
So your point is that the US did steal the Southwest at gunpoint. It's not a myth. But... tough noogies!
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