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Old 08-01-2010, 03:54 AM
 
Location: Tampa Florida
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I suspect there are many people who would not support any solution that does not include boxcars. That's a sad reality.
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Old 08-01-2010, 05:40 AM
 
Location: Pa
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I find it difficult to believe that ICE, homeland security, FBI, US dept of justice, would not do anything about an illegal alien if you had prof that they were truly illegal.

again I would ask azliam and chicagonut just what proof do they have that the people they refer to are illegals?

several sites on line about how to turn in an illegal. you know of an illegal and do nothing about it. don't even try to report them, you have no room to gripe about the situation, you are part of the problem
Your kidding right????
Police dept are told to release illegals when caught driving without a license or are involved in an accident. Told by who? Well Ice of course.
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Old 08-01-2010, 05:46 AM
 
Location: Pa
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I suspect there are many people who would not support any solution that does not include boxcars. That's a sad reality.
I don't support any solution that would include rewarding illegals.
A reward would include the following.
1. Being allowed to stay. That equals head of line pass.
2. Not being required to account for all earnings and taxes owed since entering this country.
3. Not being charged for the various forms of fraud committed.
4. Not being charged for tax evasion.
5. Being allowed to apply for a VISA while in this country.
In short not having to follow the same exact path any legal applicant has had to follow.
We don't need multiple entry and applicantion points along the border. Why? Because we don't owe any Mexican or any other nationality a VISA. We have a system in place that obviously works. We do after all allow more immigration than any other nation on earth. Quite possibly more than all others combined.
Whats broken is our border security and our law enforcement. This goes right back to the FED opting not to do their jobs.
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Old 08-01-2010, 08:33 AM
 
Location: San Diego
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I find it difficult to believe that ICE, homeland security, FBI, US dept of justice, would not do anything about an illegal alien if you had prof that they were truly illegal.

again I would ask azliam and chicagonut just what proof do they have that the people they refer to are illegals?

several sites on line about how to turn in an illegal. you know of an illegal and do nothing about it. don't even try to report them, you have no room to gripe about the situation, you are part of the problem
Here are the two I use. As I've stated, I've been responsible for some crews here illegally getting removed.

Toll free: 1-866-DHS-2-ICE
1-800-BE-ALERT for BP
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Old 08-01-2010, 10:00 AM
 
Location: Minneapolis, MN
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I actually know a few. There is truth in that they aren't always the most honest people. "Going back to Mexico for a few days" is pretty commonly told to boyfriends, girlfriends, etc... Family members in Mexico "deathly ill" one day, and perfectly fine the next (what exactly is happening down there in Mexico?? ). Makes money, but never has any money...I know a few who have paid others to be married to them also. Some don't even go by their real names.
with emphasis on "they aren't always. You're generalizing the entire population of illegals based on a the few you know who display this behavior. On the contrary I know many who don't do this.

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if you guys "know" of illegals. have you turn them in? you talk a mean game about how bad they are for our country, yet you "know" some? what are you doing about the illegals you know?
Oh yeah, and what do you expect we do? Report them to ICE so that they could MAYBE investigate it 3-6 months down the road? Just because people know somebody is illegal doesn't mean they have the ability to substantiate it either...I kind of doubt ICE takes allegations based on "things somebody heard" or a "hunch" very seriously. If you want to go by that logic I highly recommend the website Wehireillegals.org
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Old 08-01-2010, 03:15 PM
 
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I suspect there are many people who would not support any solution that does not include boxcars. That's a sad reality.
It doesn't have to be boxcars - although the irony is that illegals find $5000 to pay for a ride up in boxcars - or worse. Illegals will very gladly have themelves locked into boxcars, car trunks, unventilated semi-trailers and they'll find big money to ride up this way.

How about comfortable air-conditioned ICE buses and vans? That's much much better than how Mexico sent them to us.

As for the OTM, many of them were sent here on rickety boats but we can send them back on more comfortable ones. Not a problem.
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