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Old 07-05-2007, 04:35 PM
 
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I've spent a lot of time in California/Mexifornia and I don't think it's as bad as South Florida in that sense. There are Mexican areas of LA, but the whole city isn't like that and I know of a lot of Mexicans who have assimilated into mainstream US society far more than say, Cubans here in Miami. I have a Mexican friend who doesn't even know Spanish and if you ask him where he's from, he'll say "AMERICA, of course". Miami has become one big ghetto, unfortunately (just go to the Miami forums here and you'll see that I'm not alone in thinking this way). It's a city that has become infested with low-class, uneducated people who have no intention of assimilating with American society and many have no intention of even learning English.
I couldn't have said it better....

 
Old 07-05-2007, 04:41 PM
 
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LOL oh that reminds me. When I was in Miami I seen a sign advertising for free English lessons. I should of stopped in to see what they had to offer. They would listen to my Penncylekuckey (????) talk and tell me there is no hope for me.
 
Old 07-05-2007, 04:58 PM
 
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Well, I just started teaching myself Spanish (from a CD course) out of self preservation because more and more of the trades (lawn maintenance, construction, home improvement) are hiring workers who speak only Spanish and I want to be able to (a) make myself understood directly to the people doing the job, and (b) understand what they are saying amongst themselves.

If those guys working on my roof make a mistake and start talking in Spanish about what got screwed up and if/how they should try and fix it or just cover it up with me being none the wiser, well, I want know what's being said! Especially effective if they don't have a clue that this middle-aged white lady in an all-white neighborhood understands Spanish.

IMHO no one should be required to learn Spanish but there are more and more situations nowadays where knowing it would give us an advantage over someone who does not. Either work or just everyday living.
They shouldn't be speaking spanish to begin with. Germans learned English, French learned English, Itialians learned English, all so they could communicate their needs. I know first hand as my husband is a German Immigrant. He spoke the English language in 6 mos. So what is wrong with the spanish speaking people. We need to stop the catering as no one other group has been catered to.
 
Old 07-05-2007, 06:01 PM
 
Location: SW Kansas
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They shouldn't be speaking spanish to begin with. Germans learned English, French learned English, Itialians learned English, all so they could communicate their needs. I know first hand as my husband is a German Immigrant. He spoke the English language in 6 mos. So what is wrong with the spanish speaking people. We need to stop the catering as no one other group has been catered to.
I couldn't agree more!
 
Old 07-06-2007, 08:41 AM
 
Location: Sneads Ferry NC/Randolph NJ/Cape Coral FL
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I couldn't agree more!

DITTO!!!!!
 
Old 07-09-2007, 07:19 PM
 
Location: phoenix,this place is horrible
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I see there are alot of people that feel the same way i do. They say the japanese language is the hardest to learn, so why can they learn the language and the spanish people wont and why does our government let them.They do have the power.
 
Old 07-10-2007, 05:47 AM
 
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The thing that bothers me about this question is...you have how many companies out there demanding employees that are bilingual...then you also have companies out there who hire people who can't speak English...

I went to Burger King the other day, the girl who took my order couldn't speak English well enough to take my order correctly?

How is that right?
I would guess this is fairly common in Los Angeles.

You might appreciate this: I was hired to supervise a shift at a manufacturing plant that only spoke Spanish. (Seriously, the only bilingual speaker had been injured on the job and was out on worker's comp and would be for a long time.) The company knew that I spoke only English.

Those first few weeks were really *something*!! Not only did I not speak Spanish, I had never worked for that type of company before -- and I was in quality control! I had Spanish-speaking people coming up to me showing me little things that I thought were so dumb (little did I know at the time) and saying "no good, no good." And I would be like "So? Who cares?"

It turned out to be one of the most rewarding jobs I ever had. I learned a little Spanish, everyone else learned some English. The bilingual guy came back and learned the difference between "chew" and "shoe" (like he did not wear "chews on his feet.") Most of them had never worked for someone who only spoke English so they had been able to get by for years in this country speaking Spanish. The ones who really wanted to learn more English loved practicing it out on me. And they asked SO MANY questions! Like "Why is the glue weak? Yet we work all week? Week? Weak? They sound the same yet mean something different."

I stayed there for seven years. Can I speak Spanish now? No. I have a firm belief that it is better for the Spanish-speaking people to learn English so they can get better jobs. I speak a little Spanish. I understand more. I know the curse words. I know that "rapido" and "andale" mean to do it fast. Smiles can go really far when you don't know a particular language. (That company really flipped me out when they hired an Asian woman who spoke little English.)

Anyway, Los Angeles is really diverse. Spanish might seem really important in some jobs but there are many Asians in LA who speak a variety of languages and there are many other languages outside of Spanish and Asian languages that are spoken. I don't believe you could ever know all the languages commonly spoken here since it must be a big number -- over 30 or 40 -- and I'm just guessing. It's fairly common for companies to look for people who are tri-lingual out here (Spanish, English and some sort of Asian or English, Mandarin and Cantonese or English, Korean and Spanish). The worst part is that being trilingual can lead you to a job that pays $9 an hour.

The language issue is an interesting one.
 
Old 07-10-2007, 06:02 AM
 
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I have to tell a funny story here, because it really gave me a chuckle.

A couple of weeks ago I was playing poker at one of the poker casinos in LA. The dealer was a guy from Thailand. The other players on the table were from Korea, LA (including a black guy and gal who spoke their own lingo), and wherever else.

Anyway, after talking about great Thai restaurants, the dealer said that he had only lived in the USA for 5 years. The Korean man told him that his English was good for only living in the USA for 5 years. He told us that he studied English in Thailand for a few months before coming to the USA. Unbeknownst to him, he moved into a Hispanic area. He said he spent the first couple of months thinking "OMG! This English doesn't sound anything like I thought it would! I can't understand any of it!"

We were all laughing like crazy at that point! I just can't imagine how weird that must have been to move to a hispanic area of LA from a foreign country and think that everyone is speaking English!
 
Old 07-10-2007, 07:08 AM
 
Location: South Carolina
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Old 07-10-2007, 08:14 AM
 
Location: Wiesbaden, Germany
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my favorite was in a Sears here in San Antonio (close to 60% of the population is mexican). A customer went up to a cashier (mexican) and spoke spanish to him. The cashier gave him a dirty look and replied back in english.. The look on the customers face was classic.. best part was I know both languages so I could enjoy the laugh too.
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