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Old 12-17-2008, 04:48 PM
 
Location: San Diego
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Originally Posted by SpanishRules View Post
The issue here is not speaking Spanish when you leave the border, but the need to speak Spanish for certain job positions.

If someone can't speak English I wouldn't hire them. Wouldn't that be their problem, not mine?



Well, for one they'd have a job (that requires Spanish), and that in itself is a financial enhancement. Communicating with a laborer is actually a very big priority, as the laborers are the ones that make the business function. As for it meaning nothing to the average wage earner: That's quite the speculation, but let's assume you're right. Even in that case, then the average wage earner doesn't need to learn Spanish, because they have a job (also assuming that that certain job does not need to deal with Spanish speakers). Here what is being discussed are job postings or jobs who require Spanish-speaking, and your mention of the average wage earner is too broad, because there are average wage earners who actually need to speak Spanish.
So if you have an illegal business you need to speak Spanish to communicate with people that are otherwise unemployable because of status. Gotcha

 
Old 12-17-2008, 05:05 PM
 
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So if you have an illegal business you need to speak Spanish to communicate with people that are otherwise unemployable because of status. Gotcha
No, I don't think you got me. First , usually the businesses that employ illegals are legal. Second, I didn't mention "illegal business" or "unemployable" anywhere.
 
Old 12-17-2008, 05:10 PM
 
Location: Mesa, Az
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For the record:

English is the lingua franca of the world-----------Spanish is about as provincial as French. Read that few people out of the countries affected speak either tongue whereas English is used worldwide.
 
Old 12-17-2008, 05:14 PM
 
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For the record:

English is the lingua franca of the world-----------Spanish is about as provincial as French. Read that few people out of the countries affected speak either tongue whereas English is used worldwide.
Maybe not in the rest of the continents but, at least in the US, Spanish is not as provincial as French, because it's becoming more and more common.
 
Old 12-17-2008, 05:24 PM
 
Location: Mesa, Az
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Maybe not in the rest of the continents but, at least in the US, Spanish is not as provincial as French, because it's becoming more and more common.
And in Mexico at least; English is growing in importance.

In fact; some of the smaller Mx towns (that happen to be mostly Indian) are essentially bi-lingual these days---------the indigenous language and English (not Spanish). That is due to so many of their people being here in the USA both legally and illegally.
 
Old 12-17-2008, 05:39 PM
 
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And in Mexico at least; English is growing in importance.
No, not "growing." It already is important, because we have a neighbour to do business with. But this! (bolding mine):
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In fact; some of the smaller Mx towns (that happen to be mostly Indian) are essentially bi-lingual these days---------the indigenous language and English (not Spanish). That is due to so many of their people being here in the USA both legally and illegally.
Where exactly did you get that from?

Last edited by SpanishRules; 12-17-2008 at 06:51 PM..
 
Old 12-17-2008, 05:46 PM
 
Location: Way upstate NY - Where the snow flys
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Up here there's more Russian spoken than spanish. Why no dial 1 for Russian?
 
Old 12-17-2008, 05:48 PM
 
Location: southern california
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so that you can understand what the people are saying around you?
just guessing.
 
Old 12-17-2008, 06:58 PM
 
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Up here there's more Russian spoken than spanish. Why no dial 1 for Russian?
If that's true, then you're right. There must be dial 1 for Russian.
 
Old 12-17-2008, 07:19 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles, CA
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No, not "growing." It already is important, because we have a neighbour to do business with. But this! (bolding mine):

Where exactly did you get that from?
I'd like to know, too, Arizona Bear.
I'd like to know where you get a lot of the claims you come up with.
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