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Old 07-30-2010, 11:08 PM
 
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SB1070 WILL STAND
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SB1070 do not “pre-empt” federal law but complement it. How do you enforce immigration laws if you do not profile?
Legal citizens to not have to be asked citizenship status if they are stopped on a traffic violation if they have a driver’s license because to get a drivers license a birth certificate is required.
If an illegal aliens have a NY driver’s license it can be run through the NYDMV and data will show that a birth certificate in not on application and that is reasonable suspicion that they are illegal.
To obtain a NY driver’s license some kind of identification is necessary or it cannot be used for identification. Plus they may have numerous identifications in numerous names. Cannot identify that the person using the driver’s license is really who it say they are.
No way to do a credible back ground check on a person with numerous aliases.

State and local law enforcement officials have the general power to investigate and arrest violators of federal immigration statutes without prior INS knowledge or approval, as long as they are authorized to do so by state law.There is no extant federal limitation on this authority. The 1996 immigration control legislation passed by Congress was intended to encouragestates and local agencies to participate in the process of enforcing federal immigration laws. Immigration officers and local law enforcement officers may detain an individual for a brief warrant less interrogation where circumstances create a reasonable suspicion that the individual is illegally present in the U.S. Specific facts constituting a reasonable suspicioninclude evasive, nervous, or erratic behavior; dress or speech indicating foreign citizenship; and presence in an area known to contain a concentration of illegal aliens. Hispanic appearance alone is not sufficient.
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Old 07-30-2010, 11:22 PM
 
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Besides - there is no "hispanic appearance" as hispanics can be of any race. They can be lily white, they can be of Asian ancestry, they can be of African origins, Middle Eastern origins - and they can be any kind of racial mix.
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Old 07-31-2010, 12:01 AM
 
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We will soon see

The executive pen at the white house is pretty quick
so quick that Congress doesn't even have a chance
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Old 07-31-2010, 10:23 AM
 
Location: Texas
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I would love to be a fly on the wall and hear what many from both sides are saying behind closed doors about all the manipulation.
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Old 07-31-2010, 04:16 PM
 
Location: Arizona High Desert
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November....just around the corner. Meanwhile, let's make life miserable for these illegal parasites with their "gimme gimme" attitudes.
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Old 08-01-2010, 03:21 PM
 
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Since the federal judge made it clear that it's *federal* law, it's time for the states to sue the federal government for failing to enforce that law and also demand that the costs be taken care of at a federal level. All hospital care, all medical care, all schools, and jails should be paid for by the federal government. It's failing in it's responsibilities. Including the unemployment of Americans, why should the costs of that be at the state level either?
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Old 08-01-2010, 03:31 PM
 
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Brewer is drafting legal action to do just that. The Federal Govmnt Needs to DO IT'S Job! Gotta love her.
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Old 08-02-2010, 07:29 AM
 
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Brewer is drafting legal action to do just that. The Federal Govmnt Needs to DO IT'S Job! Gotta love her.
Why didn't Arizona write this legislation and press the Federal Government to do it's job while Bush was in office?
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Old 08-02-2010, 07:34 AM
 
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Brewer is drafting legal action to do just that. The Federal Govmnt Needs to DO IT'S Job! Gotta love her.
Excellent!!! And the federal government should be sued for the costs of it's illegals and it's failure to fulfill it's duties by reimbursing costs to the taxpayers at the state and local level. Including the costs of unemployed Americans.
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Old 08-02-2010, 02:46 PM
 
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Why didn't Arizona write this legislation and press the Federal Government to do it's job while Bush was in office?
What are you trying to say?
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