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Old 08-03-2010, 11:24 PM
 
Location: Staten Island, New York
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Or better yet, if they can't prove ability to pay for services, provide a mandatory late term abortion? That's the next logical progression. You really can't turn away a mother in labor, and in the big scheme of things, child delivery is not a major medical expense.
A) Forced abortion? Really? Would this include citizens who can't pay as well? As much as I hate the Anchor Baby problem, no one has the 'right' to force an abortion on a woman.

B) Birth in NYC, without complications, averages around $10,000.
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Old 08-03-2010, 11:30 PM
 
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But if they show up at an emergency room to give birth doesn't the hospital then bill them later on? I've NEVER been able to get access to medical care unless I have an insurance card. How can you just show up for a costly medical procedure and not get billed for it?



Don't you have to give your name? Are illegals simply showing up, lying and then going somewhere else to avoid paying what they owe? Especially if they don't have insurance and most do not? Don't they have a credit rating?

And how can they collect funds for food stamps without at least proving income and legal residentcy? Again don't you have to jump through at least a few hoops first? Is all that's really required is merely a birth certificate for a baby and -- voila -- food stamps?
Why do you think healthcare has gotten so expensive?

The illegals show up at an ER for everything including a cold, they get treated, and they don't pay.

But God forbid you're asked to show ID to prove you belong here. When I have traveled out of the country you are told keep your passport with you at all times.
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Old 08-04-2010, 03:11 PM
 
Location: Spokane via Sydney,Australia
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Why do you think healthcare has gotten so expensive?

The illegals show up at an ER for everything including a cold, they get treated, and they don't pay.

But God forbid you're asked to show ID to prove you belong here. When I have traveled out of the country you are told keep your passport with you at all times.

That's ONE of the issues right there - they are SUPPOSED to be only treated regardless of status for LIFE THREATENING or EMERGENCY issues - yet the ERs treat them for EVERY ailment for which they present themselves. Time the ERs starting turning away people presenting at ERs for minor issues.
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Old 08-04-2010, 11:18 PM
 
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"Anchor Babies"

The term describes an American. Are we anchored to this country? Are you anchored to this country? Do you, as an ethical, "Christian Nation" citizen approve of the term, "Anchor Baby"?

Stop

Think

Why do you feel the way you feel about using the term "Anchor Baby" in such a cavalier way? How do you justify attaching such a stigma to an innocent infant?
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Old 08-04-2010, 11:38 PM
 
Location: Spokane via Sydney,Australia
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Oh, give it a REST already........
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Old 08-05-2010, 07:06 AM
 
Location: Miami / Florida / U.S.A.
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Can you really simply cross the border when pregnant, pay nothing for the medical delivery of your child, claim the child as a United States citizen and then collect food stamps or other benefits from the US government as a result even if you yourself are not an American citizen?

I've heard this stated many times before. Is it true?

Thank you.
No.
In order to receive welfare you must be a USA national.

If a poor woman from Poland comes here pregnant and her baby is born in US soil that child is a USA national by birthright citizenship. She can't stay in the USA and must go back to Poland with her child. If she stays, she can't get welfare.

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Old 08-05-2010, 07:08 AM
 
Location: Miami / Florida / U.S.A.
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The hottest anchor baby is nicole Kidman.
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Old 08-05-2010, 07:09 AM
 
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the indocumented or illegal people can not get welfare for them, but they use the kids (US nationals) for it

It is a shame, and I am hispanic, so please don't play the "racism" card with me
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Old 08-05-2010, 07:27 AM
 
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"Anchor Babies"

The term describes an American. Are we anchored to this country? Are you anchored to this country? Do you, as an ethical, "Christian Nation" citizen approve of the term, "Anchor Baby"?

Stop

Think

Why do you feel the way you feel about using the term "Anchor Baby" in such a cavalier way? How do you justify attaching such a stigma to an innocent infant?
It isn't about the infant per se. It is about illegal alien parents using their instant newborn citizen as an anchor to stay here themselves and suck on the public teet.
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Old 08-05-2010, 07:29 AM
 
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No.
In order to receive welfare you must be a USA national.

If a poor woman from Poland comes here pregnant and her baby is born in US soil that child is a USA national by birthright citizenship. She can't stay in the USA and must go back to Poland with her child. If she stays, she can't get welfare.
Yes she can through her U.S. citizen child.
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