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Old 08-08-2010, 01:03 PM
 
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Well, it amazes me how the government can pack up all manner of weapons, and soldiers to send to a foreign land, and kill thousands of people, occupy permanent bases with such skill, and yet, arresting, and deporting millions of illegal parasites is "not practical".
What is even more amazing is how it is apparently unconstitutional for Arizona to take measures into their own hands, in order to protect its state. Yet totally okay for cities to establish themselves as sanctuaries. Why isn't the federal government suing those cities?

It does not take a genius to realize that terrorist do not need to bother using airports, when they can literally walk and carry anything with them, straight from Mexico.

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Old 08-08-2010, 01:04 PM
 
Location: Maryland
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As a foreigner who came here legally, it drives me up the wall when I hear idiots label illegal aliens, which is what they are, undocumented immigrants.

How about I perform open heart surgery on one of these idiots and then when it goes wrong, I get to claim I am simply an undocumented surgeon. I meant well, but I just did not have the appropriate papers stating I am qualified to place a bandage let alone carry out surgery.
Your sentiment is shared by many legal immigrants. My ex is a legal immigrant who went through the arduous process, and loathes the coddling illegal aliens receive. Why should anyone choose to play by the rules, when they see the red carpet greeting those who flagrantly violate our laws? It’s more than a slap in the face; it’s a lethal stab in the back.
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Old 08-08-2010, 01:09 PM
 
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Apparently once amnesty is granted, they are going to pay a fine.

I too would like the luxury of not paying taxes for a decade or more and then be able to simply pay a $4k fine and also be rewarded with citizenship.
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Old 08-08-2010, 01:22 PM
 
Location: Maryland
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Apparently once amnesty is granted, they are going to pay a fine.

I too would like the luxury of not paying taxes for a decade or more and then be able to simply pay a $4k fine and also be rewarded with citizenship.
The fine is a joke. I’m sure most criminals would prefer a $500 fine (the most recent proposed amount), rather than receive punishment for their crimes. Also, they won’t be required to pay back taxes if they “affirm” they owe none. How will the IRS even determine what they owe?
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Old 08-08-2010, 01:32 PM
 
Location: bold new city of the south
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Well, it amazes me how the government can pack up all manner of weapons, and soldiers to send to a foreign land, and kill thousands of people, occupy permanent bases with such skill, and yet, arresting, and deporting millions of illegal parasites is "not practical".

Boy, that is a great understatement.

Are the laughing when thay say that?
Seems like a good 'target rich area'.
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Old 08-08-2010, 03:13 PM
 
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If I rob a bank, can I claim it's not illegal, it's just an undocumented withdrawal?
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Old 08-08-2010, 03:16 PM
 
Location: Spokane via Sydney,Australia
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They use that term trying to make it sound like all they're missing is "a little paperwork" - rather than what they are which is criminals
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Old 08-08-2010, 03:47 PM
 
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Why should Latin Americans dominate the immigration system, by basically strong-arming their way into the country
Illegals demand fairness without being fair to others.
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Old 08-08-2010, 05:32 PM
 
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My favorite tactic in all this immigration debate is this push for reform, which is basically amnesty for illegals worded nicely.

Reform is ensuring illegal aliens cannot enter or function in the United States. Reform is ensuring they have no access to any public service paid for by Americans. Reform is demanding any business or person caught employing them fined well over $50K, ensuring the incentive to hire does not outweigh the risk of penalty; with the fifth offense resulting in a business being shut down. That is reform my friends.

Giving yet another amnesty is certainly not reform, it is simply repeating failed policies.
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Old 08-08-2010, 05:39 PM
 
Location: Pa
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My favorite tactic in all this immigration debate is this push for reform, which is basically amnesty for illegals worded nicely.

Reform is ensuring illegal aliens cannot enter or function in the United States. Reform is ensuring they have no access to any public service paid for by Americans. Reform is demanding any business or person caught employing them fined well over $50K, ensuring the incentive to hire does not outweigh the risk of penalty; with the fifth offense resulting in a business being shut down. That is reform my friends.

Giving yet another amnesty is certainly not reform, it is simply repeating failed policies.
Well said. Reform to some means throwing in the towel and saying ah shucks we'll gettem next time. No talk of securing the border, no talk of strict enforcement. In other words no talk of any prevention. We'll give them amnesty and that will teach them a lesson for sure.
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