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Old 08-12-2010, 09:12 AM
 
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No I was born here; so let's say today we change the constitution so that children born of illegal immigrants are not citizens. Then 10 years down the road the majority decides that this law should be applied retroactively. Then they want to declare millions of African-Americans as illegal because 150 years ago they were brought here and were never actually granted citizenship according to the new test (they were slaves). Then that they want to declare my grandfather illegal because in 1907 when my great-grandfather immigrated from Italy he and his wife gave birth to my grandfather before citizenship was obtained. By extension, then I become an illegal alien. It's a slippery slope. There are a lot of legal citizens born here who might lose their citizenship because of this.
You're grasping at straws here. For one thing if the 14th was changed it wouldn't be retroactive. It would just mean than children born on our soil from illegal aliens parents from that point forward would not gain instant citizenship anymore.
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Old 08-12-2010, 09:41 AM
 
Location: Lee's Summit, Missouri
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No.

Man withdrawing cash with a hand gun being caught by cop = Illegal
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Old 08-12-2010, 10:27 AM
 
Location: Oklahoma(formerly SoCalif) Originally Mich,
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Man withdrawing cash with a hand gun being caught by cop = Illegal
So, your saying that it's only "illegal" if you get caught?.
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Old 08-12-2010, 01:22 PM
 
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Good point Mkfarnam. Gotta wonder what some people teach their kids. I'm here but I'm a displaced migrant worker...unless I get caught. Then I'm an illegal immigrant.
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Old 08-12-2010, 03:23 PM
 
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As much as I abhor illegal immigration, I despise the thought of changing the constitution. It's an extremely drastic measure and not really in keeping with legal precedent. Further, I do not like the idea of taking ANY individual rights away. When that happens it is time to start burning things...
I don't think that it needs changing...I think it needs accurate interpretation of what it was really supposed to do. I do not believe that it was there for the purpose and abuse that it is being used for by illegals. Common sense dictates that if a person is unlawfully living in the U.S., their offspring should not be entitled to the rights that citizenship offers. My analogy is, if you rob a bank and buy things for your kids, should the kids get to keep the stuff purchased with the stolen money? A no brainer! They broke the law, no one, including the kids get to reap the rewards. Government is complicate in this outrageous and unrestrained immigration problem and if they really wanted to crack down, they would use the birthright law as it was intended to be used and throw employers of illegals in jail...period! They are fulll of $hit!
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Old 08-12-2010, 03:37 PM
 
Location: central Oregon
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Where's the logic in NOT giving citizenship to people LEGALLY in our country (ambassadors, foreign ministers, etc.) and GIVING it to those here ILLEGALLY? Logic - like common sense - is no longer is allowed in the US. :::SIGH:::
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Old 08-12-2010, 04:18 PM
 
Location: Maryland
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Where's the logic in NOT giving citizenship to people LEGALLY in our country (ambassadors, foreign ministers, etc.) and GIVING it to those here ILLEGALLY? Logic - like common sense - is no longer is allowed in the US. :::SIGH:::
Itís absolutely mind-boggling. Diplomats and their staff are here as our guests, while illegal aliens are interlopers. Yet, only the illegal aliensí children can be granted U.S. citizenship. Itís akin to having a dinner party and offering a catered meal to a group of party crashers, while your invited guests are served cold, moldy leftovers.
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Old 08-12-2010, 04:24 PM
 
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Itís absolutely mind-boggling. Diplomats and their staff are here as our guests, while illegal aliens are interlopers. Yet, only the illegal aliensí children can be granted U.S. citizenship. Itís akin to having a dinner party and offering a catered meal to a group of party crashers, while your invited guests are served cold, moldy leftovers.
You know that's a lie. Didn't you post a story about a woman on a tourist visa's child being granted U.S citizenship because he was born here?
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Old 08-12-2010, 04:29 PM
 
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IT'S A CNN POLL!! They are the illegal alien network!! I've never seen so much slanted crap in my life! Anderson freakin' Cooper can't hide his feelings for crap when he has has on a guest pro and con. He gives the pro guy as much time as he wants and the talks over the con guy.
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Old 08-12-2010, 04:43 PM
 
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You know that's a lie. Didn't you post a story about a woman on a tourist visa's child being granted U.S citizenship because he was born here?
A tourist is a Diplomat?
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