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Old 08-20-2010, 08:56 PM
 
Location: Spokane via Sydney,Australia
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Having or not having a superior work ethic (which is ridiculous to state for ANY nationality btw) has NOUGHT to do with their immigration status.

I don't care if they're freakin' Mother Teresa.....if they're illegal they shouldn't be here.
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Old 08-25-2010, 10:15 AM
 
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Something needs to be done about this. That is absolutely correct.

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There is one flaw with your statement. Those who arrive legally have a lot more money than those who don't. To expect those with money and those who were practically starving to death assimilate at the same pace is rather unreasonable.

I taught bilingual education in the Rio Grande Valley for many years. The second generation knows Spanish, but they speak English first. There are exceptions, but for the vast majority this is the case. Furthermore, bilingual is the result of studies that show teaching children in their native language first results in quicker foreign language development. It takes the average person 7 years to really know how to speak a language.






Poorer people tend to be more religious. Mexicans tend to be Catholic. Of course they have more children. It's what their religion teaches them is the right thing to do.

As for Mexicans not trying to fit in, I have observed in the Valley that it often times has to do with shame. We underestimate how intimidated many Mexican Americans are of those that are educated.

I can't speak for California as I have only lived there for 15 months of my life. In Texas, I disagree with Mexicans only trying to teach their children Spanish. In both areas I have taught, which include the Rio Grande Valley and Houston, Mexican parents are always at school when you call and generally demand you teach their children in English. It is the educators selling the parents on bilingual education using studies over the years causing many children to participate in this program.

Overall, I think it is a bit of an apples to oranges comparison due to the fact that either you have to have a lot of money or a work sponsor in order to come here legally.
I disagree. Having been in Houston for going on two years now, it is absolutely apparent that they do not assimilate nor speak English in public. Just visited a large department store where ALL the merchandise was turned to read the Spanish description of the products, and it was difficult for me to find anyone there who spoke English to help me find what I was looking for. Needless to say I left the store empty handed. This is just ONE example of many, many same scenarios in Houston.
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Old 09-16-2010, 11:23 AM
 
Location: Earth Wanderer, longing for the stars.
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Hey,
A town in TEXAS (El Cenizo) has SPANISH as the official language.
Let some US town try making ENGLISH the official language and see the uproar.
I think Spanish is a beautiful language. I have many books to learn it. I am horrible with foreign languages, but darn, if I were going to steal jobs and services away from a foreign country, I would try as much as possible to pass as a native. I would learn the language as quickly as I could. I would not take over a small town and declare it mine.

The nerve of these people!

In Canada if they find an illegal working they remove him. If a person goes to a medical facility and does not have one of their uncopyable id cards, he gets fixed up and shipped out. They do not tolerate these freeloaders. Well, we give their prolific offspring a free education and it is illegal here to ask for citizenship status in medical facilities.

What in hell is wrong with us?
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Old 09-16-2010, 12:50 PM
 
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I disagree. Having been in Houston for going on two years now, it is absolutely apparent that they do not assimilate nor speak English in public. Just visited a large department store where ALL the merchandise was turned to read the Spanish description of the products, and it was difficult for me to find anyone there who spoke English to help me find what I was looking for. Needless to say I left the store empty handed. This is just ONE example of many, many same scenarios in Houston.
Same thing here in So. Calif.
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Old 09-16-2010, 06:44 PM
 
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I disagree. Having been in Houston for going on two years now, it is absolutely apparent that they do not assimilate nor speak English in public. Just visited a large department store where ALL the merchandise was turned to read the Spanish description of the products, and it was difficult for me to find anyone there who spoke English to help me find what I was looking for. Needless to say I left the store empty handed. This is just ONE example of many, many same scenarios in Houston.
I would leave empty handed too. Was this a WalMart by chance? I've been in at least two of them in Texas where all the overhead signs were in Spanish. I was really surprised by that because at least in the Midwest the stores have both English/Spanish.
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Old 09-16-2010, 10:00 PM
 
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This parade is in NYC not Mexico City.


YouTube - MEXICAN PARADE NYC 2009 # 13
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