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Old 08-16-2010, 09:21 PM
 
Location: Spokane via Sydney,Australia
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That's all fine and dandy and commendable but get back with us when he stops talking amnesty aka CIR, ok?

- yup - all very nice showpieces, but not much action against those "non criminal" aliens
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Old 08-17-2010, 02:01 PM
 
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NADA (not a damn a*sed) thang! It's the votes stupid.
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Old 08-17-2010, 04:52 PM
 
Location: On the border, SW AZ
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When they say 'doubled... does that mean one more... 2 more or 10 more? There's no actual numbers assigned to all that PR hype... 'n more of it seems to be focused on houscats than grunts. All in all... this ain't 'fixed' yet'.

"Roughly 3,500 acres of the Buenos Aires National Wildlife Refuge -- about 3 percent of the 118,000-acre park -- have been closed since Oct. 6, 2006, when U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service officials acknowledged a marked increase in violence along a tract of land that extends north from the border for roughly three-quarters of a mile. Federal officials say they have no plans to reopen the area.


Elsewhere, at Organ Pipe Cactus National Monument, which shares a 32-mile stretch of the border with Mexico, visitors are warned on a federally-run website that some areas are not accessible by anyone.


"Due to our proximity to the International Boundary with Mexico, some areas near the border are closed for construction and visitor safety concerns," the website reads.


On another page titled "Border Concerns," the website warns that visitors should be aware that "drug smuggling routes" pass through the park.


"If you see any activity which looks illegal, suspicious, or out of place, please do not intervene," the website reads. "Note your location. Call 911 or report it to a ranger as quickly as possible. Each year hundreds of people travel north through the park seeking to enter the United States."


Visitors are also warned to be mindful of illegal immigrants within Ironwood Forest National Monument, a 129,000-acre federal parkland in the Sonoran Desert.


"All suspected illegal activities should be reported to [the Bureau of Land Management] or local law enforcement authorities," Ironwood Forest's website reads. "Visitors should stay safe by avoiding contact with persons exhibiting suspicious behavior or engaged in dangerous activities. Drive with caution and look for fast-moving vehicles and pedestrians on back roads."


Dennis Godfrey, a spokesman for the Bureau of Land Management's Arizona office, said roughly a dozen signs were posted earlier this month along the Sonoran Desert National Monument advising that travel in the area is not recommended due to "active drug and human" smuggling. The signs are not far from where a Pinal County deputy was shot and killed during a confrontation with marijuana smugglers in April and the fatal shooting of two men suspected to be drug smugglers.


"It is a corridor for smugglers of all types," Godfrey told FoxNews.com.


Similar signs have been posted at the Cabeza Prieta National Wildlife Refuge and the Coronado National Forest, which covers nearly 1.8 million acres in southeastern Arizona and southwestern New Mexico.


Estimates of exactly how many acres of federal land are closed due to safety concerns near the border were not immediately available, but at least one lawmaker told FoxNews.com that the policy of "ceding" federal land to drug and human trafficking is unacceptable.


"This is one of those things that the Department of Interior does not want to publicize," said Rep. Rob Bishop, R-Utah, ranking Republican on the House Parks and Public Lands Subcommittee. "These bad actors are now being channeled into federal lands along the border because it's so easy to make that access. The situation is getting worse on federal lands and will only get worse until we make some proactive activity to change the status quo."
"Frankly," Bishop continued, "the status quo is failing. We are failing to control our borders."

OK... so where's the fix? I live here... 20 minutes from Organ Pipe... maybe 10 from Ironwood. I've observed no change... anywhere.
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Old 08-17-2010, 05:50 PM
 
Location: Bakersfield, CA
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With the thousands still pouring over the border, one has to wonder why they KEEP citing the old figure of 12 million illegals in this country, considering they've BEEN citing that figure for at least a decade now.

Are they too damn scared to even TRY to give a figure closer to the truth?
The truth would frighten too many people. The government is afraid that if the truth got out the "Minute Men" would be at the border, armed and defending our country like the government has refused to do.
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Old 08-17-2010, 06:13 PM
 
Location: On the border, SW AZ
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The truth would frighten too many people. The government is afraid that if the truth got out the "Minute Men" would be at the border, armed and defending our country like the government has refused to do.
There are no more 'Minute Men'... that's disbanded.
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Old 08-19-2010, 09:19 PM
 
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I am glad this administration is taking steps to stop illegal immigration, but seems they pretty much shoot themselves in the foot w/ the lawsuit against Arizona & etc. Seems all I see online are rants against Obama & how he's not doing enough to stop illegal immigration. You'd think the border was just opened the day he took office!!
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Old 08-22-2010, 03:23 PM
 
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When they say 'doubled... does that mean one more... 2 more or 10 more? There's no actual numbers assigned to all that PR hype... 'n more of it seems to be focused on houscats than grunts. All in all... this ain't 'fixed' yet'.

"Roughly 3,500 acres of the Buenos Aires National Wildlife Refuge -- about 3 percent of the 118,000-acre park -- have been closed since Oct. 6, 2006, when U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service officials acknowledged a marked increase in violence along a tract of land that extends north from the border for roughly three-quarters of a mile. Federal officials say they have no plans to reopen the area.


Elsewhere, at Organ Pipe Cactus National Monument, which shares a 32-mile stretch of the border with Mexico, visitors are warned on a federally-run website that some areas are not accessible by anyone.


"Due to our proximity to the International Boundary with Mexico, some areas near the border are closed for construction and visitor safety concerns," the website reads.


On another page titled "Border Concerns," the website warns that visitors should be aware that "drug smuggling routes" pass through the park.


"If you see any activity which looks illegal, suspicious, or out of place, please do not intervene," the website reads. "Note your location. Call 911 or report it to a ranger as quickly as possible. Each year hundreds of people travel north through the park seeking to enter the United States."


Visitors are also warned to be mindful of illegal immigrants within Ironwood Forest National Monument, a 129,000-acre federal parkland in the Sonoran Desert.


"All suspected illegal activities should be reported to [the Bureau of Land Management] or local law enforcement authorities," Ironwood Forest's website reads. "Visitors should stay safe by avoiding contact with persons exhibiting suspicious behavior or engaged in dangerous activities. Drive with caution and look for fast-moving vehicles and pedestrians on back roads."


Dennis Godfrey, a spokesman for the Bureau of Land Management's Arizona office, said roughly a dozen signs were posted earlier this month along the Sonoran Desert National Monument advising that travel in the area is not recommended due to "active drug and human" smuggling. The signs are not far from where a Pinal County deputy was shot and killed during a confrontation with marijuana smugglers in April and the fatal shooting of two men suspected to be drug smugglers.


"It is a corridor for smugglers of all types," Godfrey told FoxNews.com.


Similar signs have been posted at the Cabeza Prieta National Wildlife Refuge and the Coronado National Forest, which covers nearly 1.8 million acres in southeastern Arizona and southwestern New Mexico.


Estimates of exactly how many acres of federal land are closed due to safety concerns near the border were not immediately available, but at least one lawmaker told FoxNews.com that the policy of "ceding" federal land to drug and human trafficking is unacceptable.


"This is one of those things that the Department of Interior does not want to publicize," said Rep. Rob Bishop, R-Utah, ranking Republican on the House Parks and Public Lands Subcommittee. "These bad actors are now being channeled into federal lands along the border because it's so easy to make that access. The situation is getting worse on federal lands and will only get worse until we make some proactive activity to change the status quo."
"Frankly," Bishop continued, "the status quo is failing. We are failing to control our borders."

OK... so where's the fix? I live here... 20 minutes from Organ Pipe... maybe 10 from Ironwood. I've observed no change... anywhere.
This is beyond reason to make Americans be mindful of constant criminal assault! not just out in the desert at border locations, its everywhere they have gotten a foothold in nice middle class neighborhoods too.
what sheer crap they hand us as our way of life is constantly screwed up.
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Old 08-22-2010, 04:11 PM
 
Location: My little patch of Earth
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All the hard facts you need, but i'm sure some folks will still ignore it.
All commendable efforts. Albeit a drop in the bucket.

(as 288,591 more illegals walk right past them)
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Old 08-24-2010, 10:01 PM
 
Location: southern california
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@huck, do you really think he'll try and push amnesty through even though he knows most of the US is against it?
to get reelected by illegals?
you betcha.
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Old 08-25-2010, 12:46 PM
 
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The current administration has done nothing to stop illegal immigration. If anything, they have encouraged more illegal immigration into the county. How, you ask?

1. They appointed a Mexican to the Supreme Court.

2. They prevent ICE from doing their job properly

3. They leave it up to companies to check for immigration status of the people they hire.

4. They give companies advanced warning of immigration inspection.

5. They are now releasing illegal aliens from deportation centers.

During the Presidential Election, I had hoped that Obama, being a black, would have sympathy for poor Americans who are hurt by illegal immigration. I was wrong. Apparently, this man has more sympathy for illegal trespassers than his fellow Americans. I will now vote against him and against anybody who is associated with him in any way, shape, or form.
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