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Old 08-19-2010, 10:55 AM
 
Location: Maryland
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None of our states can sustain this unnecessary burden. It’s time for illegals to leave.

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AUSTIN -- Undocumented immigrants cost the state hundreds of millions of dollars each year, executives of state agencies said Wednesday.

The state spends an estimated $96 million on medical services for undocumented immigrants, according to figures from the Health and Human Services Commission.

Other state workers said about 9,800 inmates with federal immigration "holds" were in state prisons. Their care cost an estimated $153 million after a $17.9 million federal reimbursement.
Texas officials tally costs of illegal immigration - El Paso Times
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Old 08-19-2010, 11:39 AM
 
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I understand how "their cost" is figured, but how is "they contributed" figured?
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Old 08-19-2010, 12:11 PM
 
Location: Maryland
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I understand how "their cost" is figured, but how is "they contributed" figured?
Texas does not require the withholding of state income taxes. Therefore, I’m not sure how “they contributed” would be determined, other than sales or property taxes. Even in states requiring income taxes, a large percentage of illegals are paid in cash.
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Old 08-19-2010, 12:52 PM
 
Location: Phoenix,Arizona
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Add this and the costs to the other border states
and deduct that amount for everyone in government
who have elected not to secure the border

When it hit's them in Hip National they just might
have a second thought

As long as the murders, rapes, kidnappings, ID theft, and credit fraud is happening to everyone EXCEPT our elected local/state/federal officials, their family members, and close friends -- illegal entry to the U.S. is officially NOT A PROBLEM.
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Old 08-19-2010, 01:02 PM
 
Location: bold new city of the south
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Add this and the costs to the other border states and deduct that amount for everyone in government who have elected not to secure the border
When it hit's them in Hip National they just might have a second thought
As long as the murders, rapes, kidnappings, ID theft, and credit fraud is happening to everyone EXCEPT our elected local/state/federal officials, their family members, and close friends -- illegal entry to the U.S. is officially NOT A PROBLEM.
More of our nations economic, crime, employment, healthcare, and
prison-related problems are caused by illegal aliens' trespassing, than
any other single issue. Remove the illegals, and prevent their entry,
and see what benefits it brings.
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Old 08-19-2010, 01:09 PM
 
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Texas does not require the withholding of state income taxes. Therefore, I’m not sure how “they contributed” would be determined, other than sales or property taxes. Even in states requiring income taxes, a large percentage of illegals are paid in cash.
Can't use sales tax since the source, customer paying it, is undentified.

Can't use property tax unless property is listed as belonging to "undocumented" or rental income is identified as coming from "undocumented.

So what methodolgy is used to count that which is not documented?
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Old 08-19-2010, 11:45 PM
 
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More of our nations economic, crime, employment, healthcare, and
prison-related problems
Minor drug possession is the real prison-related problems. Being too aggressive in locking up minor drug cases is causing people to be corrupted behind bars. Also it causes taxpayer burden, and causes the state to spend money on prison design and on hiring prison guards from rural communities (a complicated form of welfare)

Focus on the major drug traffickers and legalize substances that do not cause significant harm to our overall public safety.
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Old 08-20-2010, 07:39 AM
 
Location: Maryland
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Can't use sales tax since the source, customer paying it, is undentified.

Can't use property tax unless property is listed as belonging to "undocumented" or rental income is identified as coming from "undocumented.

So what methodolgy is used to count that which is not documented?
I have asked that question repeatedly. Supporters of illegal aliens claim they are paying billions in taxes. However, without a method to ascertain their tax contributions, how do we know what they are paying?
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Old 08-20-2010, 01:12 PM
 
Location: Oklahoma(formerly SoCalif) Originally Mich,
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An Arizona-type law in Texas could bring additional costs and mean a loss of manpower if state and local law officers are pulled away their duties to act as de facto border patrol agents, Democratic legislators said.
DAH! There are such things as "worker programs"




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When Oliveira asked Horn to consider the additional costs that an Arizona-type law may place on counties, she agreed and responded: "It would fill up our jail,
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and really the only solution is to close the border."


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Oliveira retorted, "Well that's your suggestion. That could also destroy the Texas economy in other ways."
Do tell....
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Old 08-20-2010, 01:20 PM
 
Location: bold new city of the south
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Minor drug possession is the real prison-related problems. Being too aggressive in locking up minor drug cases is causing people to be corrupted behind bars. Also it causes taxpayer burden, and causes the state to spend money on prison design and on hiring prison guards from rural communities (a complicated form of welfare)

Focus on the major drug traffickers and legalize substances that do not cause significant harm to our overall public safety.

I agree with everything you say. Your point is well taken.

AND, the illegals taken out of our prison system would help more.

Remember my point was, taking illegals out of the equation is the ONE thing,
which could make all these changes by itself.
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