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Old 08-26-2010, 07:22 PM
 
Location: Spokane via Sydney,Australia
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Deportation doesn't work. While the jobs are there, the deportees will just sneak back across the border because, even at low wages, it is much better than what is available back home.

Going after the employers is the right way to do it. If the illegal jobs dry up then the illegal aliens will be forced to return home. We already saw this when the economic crisis killed construction so lets have more of these audits.
Deportation doesn't work because there's no WILL from those in power to secure the border.
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Old 08-26-2010, 07:23 PM
 
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Deportation doesn't work. While the jobs are there, the deportees will just sneak back across the border because, even at low wages, it is much better than what is available back home.

Going after the employers is the right way to do it. If the illegal jobs dry up then the illegal aliens will be forced to return home. We already saw this when the economic crisis killed construction so lets have more of these audits.
They aren't all working so we still need to deport them whether they are found on a job or not.
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Old 08-26-2010, 07:25 PM
 
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Deportation doesn't work because there's no WILL from those in power to secure the border.
You cannot secure a border as long as ours. It isn't physically possible. Cutting off the jobs is far more effective.
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Old 08-26-2010, 07:31 PM
 
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You cannot secure a border as long as ours. It isn't physically possible. Cutting off the jobs is far more effective.
We can and should do both. Securing our borders isn't just about illegal aliens looking for work. Criminals not looking for work and terrorists are also able to enter.
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Old 08-26-2010, 07:45 PM
 
Location: Spokane via Sydney,Australia
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We can and should do both. Securing our borders isn't just about illegal aliens looking for work. Criminals not looking for work and terrorists are also able to enter.
I totally agree, we need to make BEING here uninviting for them (preferably downright scary) AND secure our border.
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Old 08-26-2010, 07:46 PM
 
Location: Spokane via Sydney,Australia
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You cannot secure a border as long as ours. It isn't physically possible. Cutting off the jobs is far more effective.
Tell that to the builders of the Great Wall of China
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Old 08-26-2010, 07:49 PM
 
Location: Maryland
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Deportation doesn't work. While the jobs are there, the deportees will just sneak back across the border because, even at low wages, it is much better than what is available back home.

Going after the employers is the right way to do it. If the illegal jobs dry up then the illegal aliens will be forced to return home. We already saw this when the economic crisis killed construction so lets have more of these audits.
What purpose do audits serve if they are only going to fine the employers and release illegal workers to seek employment elsewhere? Employers of illegals probably accrue for such fines. It’s simply another cost of doing business. Heck, DHS actually provided transportation for illegals to obtain work permits after they raided a workplace. How’s that for enforcement?

Unless they get serious, it will be business as usual. They should have a mandatory 10-year prison sentence and forfeiture of assets for employers, as well as deportation for illegal employees. If they militarize our borders, illegals won’t be able to simply return. The entire system is a joke. We CAN secure our borders.
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Old 08-27-2010, 07:16 PM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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Deportation doesn't work. While the jobs are there, the deportees will just sneak back across the border because, even at low wages, it is much better than what is available back home.

Going after the employers is the right way to do it. If the illegal jobs dry up then the illegal aliens will be forced to return home. We already saw this when the economic crisis killed construction so lets have more of these audits.



Jaggy, we need to be strict on both accounts.

I agree there needs to be massive penalties for working illegals. Mandatory 5-10 year jail time, with seizure of all business and personal assets. Along with a big fine, to boot. Who is going to risk it, if it is being enforced? Would you?

Also the fear in the illegals they are going to be deported if caught, gives them the chance to load all their acquired crap and head South, or they can go with nothing. If you fear loosing it all, would you get the hell out of Dodge?
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Old 08-28-2010, 12:47 AM
 
Location: Staten Island, New York
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Tell that to the builders of the Great Wall of China
I'm stealing this!
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Old 08-28-2010, 08:54 PM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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Tell that to the builders of the Great Wall of China

That is Classic!
Reps to you!
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