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Old 08-25-2010, 09:53 AM
 
Location: Portland, Oregon
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The Obama administration is aggressively going after employers who hire illegal immigrants by auditing employer's records. In the past year, ICE has audited 2,900 companies and has levied a record $3-million in fines so far. Thousands of workers have been fired. Gebbers Farm, one of companies cited in the link for hiring illegal workers had to fire 500 workers. Many immigrants purchased new false documents and went looking for jobs in more distant orchards, but news travels fast, and word is out to avoid hiring immigrants because ICE knows they are unauthorized. ICE auditors examined forms known as I-9’s, which all new hires in the country must fill out. ICE then advised Gebbers Farms of Social Security and immigration numbers that did not check out with federal databases. BTW, unemployed Americans are not stepping up to take these jobs.
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Employers say the audits reach more companies than the work-site roundups of the administration of President George W. Bush. The audits force businesses to fire every suspected illegal immigrant on the payroll— not just those who happened to be on duty at the time of a raid — and make it much harder to hire other unauthorized workers as replacements. Auditing is “a far more effective enforcement tool,” said Mike Gempler, executive director of the Washington Growers League, which includes many worried fruit growers.
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“Instead of hundreds of agents going after one company, now one agent can go after hundreds of companies,” said Mark K. Reed, president of Border Management Strategies, a consulting firm in Tucson that advises companies across the country on immigration law.
http://www.nytimes.com/2010/07/10/us...gewanted=print
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Old 08-25-2010, 09:57 AM
 
Location: Spokane via Sydney,Australia
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The Obama administration is aggressively going after employers who hire illegal immigrants by auditing employer's records. In the past year, ICE has audited 2,900 companies and has levied a record $3-million in fines so far. Thousands of workers have been fired. Gebbers Farm, one of companies cited in the link for hiring illegal workers had to fire 500 workers. Many immigrants purchased new false documents and went looking for jobs in more distant orchards, but news travels fast, and word is out to avoid hiring immigrants because ICE knows they are unauthorized. ICE auditors examined forms known as I-9’s, which all new hires in the country must fill out. ICE then advised Gebbers Farms of Social Security and immigration numbers that did not check out with federal databases. BTW, unemployed Americans are not stepping up to take these jobs.
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Employers say the audits reach more companies than the work-site roundups of the administration of President George W. Bush. The audits force businesses to fire every suspected illegal immigrant on the payroll— not just those who happened to be on duty at the time of a raid — and make it much harder to hire other unauthorized workers as replacements. Auditing is “a far more effective enforcement tool,” said Mike Gempler, executive director of the Washington Growers League, which includes many worried fruit growers.
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“Instead of hundreds of agents going after one company, now one agent can go after hundreds of companies,” said Mark K. Reed, president of Border Management Strategies, a consulting firm in Tucson that advises companies across the country on immigration law.
http://www.nytimes.com/2010/07/10/us...gewanted=print
Why don't they just require copies of I-9s to be kept on file by the employer and the originals to be forwarded to an agency to be audited (checked for validity) within 30 days of hire?

Most states already have "new hire" reporting ostensibly to be checked against child support records, but they're not allowed to "audit" these for SSN validity apparently.

Works for other countries.
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Old 08-25-2010, 12:44 PM
 
Location: Oklahoma(formerly SoCalif) Originally Mich,
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“Many people are still crying because this is really hard,” said M. García, 41, a former Gebbers packing house worker who has been out of a job since January.
Well.....Boo Hoo!......let's play the violin.
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Old 08-25-2010, 01:16 PM
 
Location: Spokane via Sydney,Australia
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While the sweeps of the past commonly led to the deportation of such workers, the “silent raids,” as employers call the audits, usually result in the workers being fired, but in many cases they are not deported.
Isn't deportation of illegals the goal here? Good grief

and fwiw - the so called NW Immigrants Rights project is misnamed (as per usual) - they don't care about the rights of low income immigrants as they state - just illegals and refugees.

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Old 08-25-2010, 01:34 PM
 
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The Obama administration is aggressively going after employers who hire illegal immigrants by auditing employer's records. In the past year, ICE has audited 2,900 companies and has levied a record $3-million in fines so far. Thousands of workers have been fired. Gebbers Farm, one of companies cited in the link for hiring illegal workers had to fire 500 workers. Many immigrants purchased new false documents and went looking for jobs in more distant orchards, but news travels fast, and word is out to avoid hiring immigrants because ICE knows they are unauthorized. ICE auditors examined forms known as I-9’s, which all new hires in the country must fill out. ICE then advised Gebbers Farms of Social Security and immigration numbers that did not check out with federal databases. BTW, unemployed Americans are not stepping up to take these jobs.
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Employers say the audits reach more companies than the work-site roundups of the administration of President George W. Bush. The audits force businesses to fire every suspected illegal immigrant on the payroll— not just those who happened to be on duty at the time of a raid — and make it much harder to hire other unauthorized workers as replacements. Auditing is “a far more effective enforcement tool,” said Mike Gempler, executive director of the Washington Growers League, which includes many worried fruit growers.
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“Instead of hundreds of agents going after one company, now one agent can go after hundreds of companies,” said Mark K. Reed, president of Border Management Strategies, a consulting firm in Tucson that advises companies across the country on immigration law.
http://www.nytimes.com/2010/07/10/us...gewanted=print
Americans may not be stepping up to take these fruit picking jobs but the farmers know there are unlimited visas for legal immigrant pickers but they want their cheap illegal labor instead. Watch Americans step up to take most other blue collar jobs such as construction of which they were replaced by illegal workers also.
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Old 08-25-2010, 01:47 PM
 
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BTW, unemployed Americans are not stepping up to take these jobs.
Until wages aren't attractive enough, there won't be American workers. Simple supply and demand
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Old 08-25-2010, 02:16 PM
 
Location: Spokane via Sydney,Australia
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Until wages aren't attractive enough, there won't be American workers. Simple supply and demand
I'd like to know how much they're paying AND where they're "advertising" these jobs are available............
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Old 08-25-2010, 05:53 PM
 
Location: San Diego
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The Obama administration is aggressively going after employers who hire illegal immigrants by auditing employer's records. In the past year, ICE has audited 2,900 companies and has levied a record $3-million in fines so far. Thousands of workers have been fired. Gebbers Farm, one of companies cited in the link for hiring illegal workers had to fire 500 workers. Many immigrants purchased new false documents and went looking for jobs in more distant orchards, but news travels fast, and word is out to avoid hiring immigrants because ICE knows they are unauthorized. ICE auditors examined forms known as I-9’s, which all new hires in the country must fill out. ICE then advised Gebbers Farms of Social Security and immigration numbers that did not check out with federal databases. BTW, unemployed Americans are not stepping up to take these jobs.
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Employers say the audits reach more companies than the work-site roundups of the administration of President George W. Bush. The audits force businesses to fire every suspected illegal immigrant on the payroll— not just those who happened to be on duty at the time of a raid — and make it much harder to hire other unauthorized workers as replacements. Auditing is “a far more effective enforcement tool,” said Mike Gempler, executive director of the Washington Growers League, which includes many worried fruit growers.
...
“Instead of hundreds of agents going after one company, now one agent can go after hundreds of companies,” said Mark K. Reed, president of Border Management Strategies, a consulting firm in Tucson that advises companies across the country on immigration law.
http://www.nytimes.com/2010/07/10/us...gewanted=print
I know someone making 10 an hour on UE. Why would they take a job less than that? Remove the Illegals so these jobs pay more than UE.
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Old 08-25-2010, 07:59 PM
 
Location: Maryland
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Isn't deportation of illegals the goal here? Good grief

and fwiw - the so called NW Immigrants Rights project is misnamed (as per usual) - they don't care about the rights of low income immigrants as they state - just illegals and refugees.

Clearly, that is NOT their goal, as evidenced by their moratorium on “non-criminal” deportations.
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Old 08-26-2010, 05:03 AM
 
Location: San Diego
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Clearly, that is NOT their goal, as evidenced by their moratorium on “non-criminal” deportations.

We need to have a suit (by which group I don't know) that leads the charge to have these laws reversed.

If we have laws that we aren't going to enforce then the law needs to be erased.
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