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Old 09-06-2010, 05:32 PM
 
Location: Oklahoma(formerly SoCalif) Originally Mich,
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The US Government is the cause of all of this, and it can all be said in one sentence.
If it weren't for "Corporate Taxes" there would be no need for "outsourcing or cheaper labor"(illegal immigration)

If you think about it, that's 50% of the problem.

Today we see the other 50% of the problem, which is, "the results" of outsourcing and cheaper labor (illegal immigration).

Our Government caused the problem decades ago.
Today, we're left to face the consequences
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Old 09-07-2010, 04:44 AM
 
Location: texas
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The US Government is the cause of all of this, and it can all be said in one sentence.
If it weren't for "Corporate Taxes" there would be no need for "outsourcing or cheaper labor"(illegal immigration)

If you think about it, that's 50% of the problem.

Today we see the other 50% of the problem, which is, "the results" of outsourcing and cheaper labor (illegal immigration).

Our Government caused the problem decades ago.
Today, we're left to face the consequences
Who Rules America: Wealth, Income, and Power


america has turned to a society of hipocrasy

top 5% owned 77% of all of its worth
top 10% owned 83% of all of its worth

what does that tell you? that some how the rich have acces to

1. government bonds, corporate bonds, foreign bonds, and other financial securities;

2. corporate stock and mutual funds

the rich are the ones creating all of the problems in america, they are the ones bringing illegals in and shut the government not to do anything about it. they are the ones buying stock and supporting companies that outsource.

NAME ME ONE COMPANY...that doesnt outsource?
illegals are preventing the bloodshed of americas communities.
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Old 09-07-2010, 06:58 AM
 
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"illegals are preventing the bloodshed of americas communities".

No, they and their corrupt employers will be causing the bloodshed in our communties if Americans don't get their jobs back and we continue to have to subsidize their social costs.

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Old 09-07-2010, 07:38 AM
 
Location: Maryland
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the rich are the ones creating all of the problems in america, they are the ones bringing illegals in and shut the government not to do anything about it. they are the ones buying stock and supporting companies that outsource.

NAME ME ONE COMPANY...that doesnt outsource?
illegals are preventing the bloodshed of americas communities.
Illegal immigration exacerbates our problems; and if not curtailed, will be the death knell for the middle class, and will ultimately lead to the destruction of this great nation. We donít need a surplus of non-taxpaying, uneducated, low-skilled workers, or welfare recipients. We need a skilled workforce, ingenuity, and innovation. We canít survive as a service industry nation, importing the majority of our goods from other countries. We need to produce.

U.S. corporations are creating jobs, but they arenít creating jobs for U.S. citizens. They employ foreigners illegally in this country, and outsource to foreigners abroad. How on earth does this country benefit from high unemployment and dwindling employment opportunities for citizens?

You keep contradicting yourself in a futile attempt to justify illegal immigration. There is no justification. One minute you claim the corporate elite who employ illegals are culpable. Then, you claim the illegals employed by these greedy corporations are ďpreventing the bloodshed of Americaís communities.Ē It canít be both. Thatís tantamount to arguing the perils of illicit drug use, while extolling drug addicts. Itís utter nonsense.
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Old 09-07-2010, 09:20 AM
 
Location: Oklahoma(formerly SoCalif) Originally Mich,
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When a Corporation outsources, why don't they hire illegal workers from the US?.
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Old 09-07-2010, 10:43 AM
 
Location: egypt
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well,it was you who brought the birds ,you who let them spread everywhere in ur place.it was ur mistake not to put rules and limitations for the birds ,it was ur falt not to oragnize a particuler place in your aptio for the birds , you let them get uncontrolled.there always must be rules so, things go right.
birds are living things they sleep,eat and leave cheat behind just as humans would do if there is NO restricted rules.
SO, peaple should think a lot before they descide to welcome people in thier place
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Old 09-07-2010, 10:46 AM
 
Location: Texas
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garbage analogy.

there was no recipricol relation between the feeder and the birds, whereas in the US there is a recipricol relation between the US and illegals (low wage labor).

people are not like birds.
people actually work.


garbage analogy.
make the birds handy men, or janitors and factory workers, then maybe the analogy might work...
Not if they can get away with not working.

I worked with poor people for years. And with illegals. And also with Katrina victims. At first they were grateful. Then they became entitled. Then they became downright hostile if they didn't get what they wanted when they wanted and on their terms. Over and over and over this happened. This happened just yesterday when a meth-addict psycho yelled and screamed at everyone in my ED because she was given a free bus ticket instead of a free cab ride.
It's the natural evolution of a handout. For anyone. That's why there should be no system for chronic handouts.
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Old 09-07-2010, 11:13 AM
 
Location: Spokane via Sydney,Australia
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Not if they can get away with not working.

I worked with poor people for years. And with illegals. And also with Katrina victims. At first they were grateful. Then they became entitled. Then they became downright hostile if they didn't get what they wanted when they wanted and on their terms. Over and over and over this happened. This happened just yesterday when a meth-addict psycho yelled and screamed at everyone in my ED because she was given a free bus ticket instead of a free cab ride.
It's the natural evolution of a handout. For anyone. That's why there should be no system for chronic handouts.

^^ This.
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Old 09-07-2010, 11:38 AM
 
Location: Oklahoma(formerly SoCalif) Originally Mich,
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garbage analogy.

there was no recipricol relation between the feeder and the birds, whereas in the US there is a recipricol relation between the US and illegals (low wage labor).
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people are not like birds.
people actually work.

garbage analogy.
make the birds handy men, or janitors and factory workers, then maybe the analogy might work...
Illegal immigration of today, is like the movie "The Birds".
I'm still waiting for the end results.
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Old 09-07-2010, 04:59 PM
 
Location: texas
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Illegal immigration exacerbates our problems; and if not curtailed, will be the death knell for the middle class, and will ultimately lead to the destruction of this great nation. We donít need a surplus of non-taxpaying, uneducated, low-skilled workers, or welfare recipients. We need a skilled workforce, ingenuity, and innovation. We canít survive as a service industry nation, importing the majority of our goods from other countries. We need to produce.

U.S. corporations are creating jobs, but they arenít creating jobs for U.S. citizens. They employ foreigners illegally in this country, and outsource to foreigners abroad. How on earth does this country benefit from high unemployment and dwindling employment opportunities for citizens?

You keep contradicting yourself in a futile attempt to justify illegal immigration. There is no justification. One minute you claim the corporate elite who employ illegals are culpable. Then, you claim the illegals employed by these greedy corporations are ďpreventing the bloodshed of Americaís communities.Ē It canít be both. Thatís tantamount to arguing the perils of illicit drug use, while extolling drug addicts. Itís utter nonsense.


I am not contradicting myself the middle class is who? when I have told you that 80% of the population owned 7%!!! of its financial wealth

the middle class is the top 1, top 5, top 20 which one is your middle class?

the middle class has died with neoliberalism

mexicans and all latin america hated it when american corporations went took control of their resources and practically made them sweatshop slaves. mexicans are now even competing against chinese wages.
corporations are not nobodys friends.
and the thing is I hate it when all the people get agitated when it comes to illegal immigration.
these is not the first time it occurs, it occur in the 1917's, 1940's, 1950's
and when the economy is good companies exploit them, when its bad they
direct all the bad results to them.

we need to stop being cowards and start americans revolution that all of youll anti illegals are preaching, then burn
the causes of americas declines.

stores, clothes everything regarding americas declines.

which I still blame americas decline to countries with more vibrant populations, cheaper, then 7% of its population who are illegals
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