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Old 08-31-2010, 10:41 PM
 
Location: Phoenix
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Report: Feds lawsuit against SB 1070 protects human rights

What a joke!
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Old 09-01-2010, 07:40 AM
 
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Arizona knew the law was unconstitutional, they knew the courts would eventually disallow it, yet Arizona went and wrote the law anyway. People keep defending the law stating it mirrors federal law. Really? Then why spend money writing such a law in the first place?

Arizona Republicans chose to write the law this year as opposed to when Bush was in office. It was a political ploy on an election year. Now that Obama chooses to play politics right back at the Republicans, they cry foul.

That's just rich.
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Old 09-01-2010, 08:43 AM
 
Location: Phoenix
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Arizona knew the law was unconstitutional, they knew the courts would eventually disallow it, yet Arizona went and wrote the law anyway. People keep defending the law stating it mirrors federal law. Really? Then why spend money writing such a law in the first place?

Arizona Republicans chose to write the law this year as opposed to when Bush was in office. It was a political ploy on an election year. Now that Obama chooses to play politics right back at the Republicans, they cry foul.

That's just rich.
What's really rich is the fact that laws really don't mean anything anymore in this country. I guess you're a supporter of that idea, huh?
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Old 09-01-2010, 09:01 AM
 
Location: Maryland
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Arizona knew the law was unconstitutional, they knew the courts would eventually disallow it, yet Arizona went and wrote the law anyway. People keep defending the law stating it mirrors federal law. Really? Then why spend money writing such a law in the first place?

Arizona Republicans chose to write the law this year as opposed to when Bush was in office. It was a political ploy on an election year. Now that Obama chooses to play politics right back at the Republicans, they cry foul.

That's just rich.
Thatís right; Arizona never attempted to address the issue of illegal immigration until Obama became president. In fact, none of the states were even remotely concerned. Itís all a political ploy in an election year.

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By: JACQUES BILLEAUD - Associated Press North County Times - Posted: Saturday, May 21, 2005 12:00 am
PHOENIX ó Arizona Gov. Janet Napolitano vetoed two proposals Friday aimed at confronting the state's problems with illegal immigration, saying one proposal would do nothing to ease difficulties along the busiest illicit entry point on the nation's porous southern border.
Arizona governor vetoes two immigration bills, signs another

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In 2006, Arizona voters will consider changing the state Constitution to deny bail to illegal immigrants arrested for serious crimes.
Arizona lashes out at illegal immigration

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Everything you need to know about the new employer-sanctions law.
Nov. 28, 2007 01:34 PM

The sanctions law, known as the Legal Arizona Workers Act, is intended to ensure that no businesses in Arizona knowingly or intentionally hire or employ illegal immigrants.
Legal Arizona Workers Act 101

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According to an August report by the National Conference of State Legislatures, in 2007 the 50 states had introduced 1,404 pieces of immigration-related legislation in their home legislatures Ė roughly two and a half times more bills in 2007 than in 2006. In the first half of the year, 170 of these bills became law in 41 states Ė more than double the total number of 2006 enactments (84). This record number of state immigration laws and bills cover a wide variety of issues affecting both legal and undocumented immigrants including employment, health care, law enforcement, public benefits, education, and driver license identification requirements.
United States, Immigration, Law Update: Immigration And Nationality - Proskauer Rose LLP - 02/10/2007 13:14:57, Government & Public Sector, Terrorism, Homeland Security & Defence, Labour and Employment, Immigration
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Old 09-01-2010, 09:08 AM
 
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Excellent homework there, Benicar.
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Old 09-01-2010, 09:30 AM
 
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You just gave examples of laws that pass constitutional muster. SB1070 is a lot different. They knew it would be knocked down, which in my opinion makes it seem like a political ploy. Also, it doesn't help when your state becomes the only one to require a birth certificate to run for president.

Why didn't they try to pass this in 2005, 2006 or 2007?
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Old 09-01-2010, 10:07 AM
 
Location: Pa
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last time I checked a question on the citizenship test actually asks if a person wishing to run for President needs to be a Native born citizen. The answer of course was yes.
You need a Birth certificate to get a passport, enlist in the military, so why not to become comander and chief of the military. Really faultin a state for requiring the same things as they would for anyone else is hardly unfair.
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Old 09-01-2010, 10:30 AM
 
Location: Maryland
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You just gave examples of laws that pass constitutional muster. SB1070 is a lot different. They knew it would be knocked down, which in my opinion makes it seem like a political ploy. Also, it doesn't help when your state becomes the only one to require a birth certificate to run for president.

Why didn't they try to pass this in 2005, 2006 or 2007?
Pro-illegals opposed those laws as well. In fact, Napolitano vetoed some. The only political posturing I see is from the White House.

So, the fact that they didnít try to pass SB 1070 during the Bush Administration proves itís a political ploy? Should we wait until the next administration to resolve this issue? Should we have also waited until the next administration to withdraw our troops from Iraq? Please.

BTW, SB 1070 has not yet been declared unconstitutional.
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Old 09-01-2010, 10:38 AM
 
Location: Pa
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I am still trying to understand how its a human rights issue. How is requiring someone stopped for violating a law to show ID a human rights issue?
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Old 09-01-2010, 10:40 AM
 
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I am still trying to understand how its a human rights issue. How is requiring someone stopped for violating a law to show ID a human rights issue?
Beats me also.
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