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Old 09-01-2010, 01:26 PM
 
Location: North America
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Be it the bad economy or stricter enforcement, there are fewer illegal immigrants in the US, with numbers dropping to 2005 figures.

Number of illegal immigrants in US now declining

Number of illegal immigrants in US now declining | General Headlines | Comcast.net (http://www.comcast.net/articles/news-general/20100901/US.Illegal.Immigration/ - broken link)

WASHINGTON ó The number of illegal immigrants living in the U.S. has dropped for the first time in two decades ó decreasing by 8 percent as the sour economy dried up jobs and increased enforcement made it harder to sneak across the border with Mexico, a new study finds.
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Old 09-01-2010, 01:53 PM
 
Location: San Diego
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Not bad news but not good news either. I'd like that to read 80%.
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Old 09-01-2010, 02:16 PM
 
Location: Pa
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Ok first of all as the pro-illegal side claims we really don't know the actual number of illegals in this country. So 8% of an unknown number one must assume that the 8% is also a fantacy number as well.
If it is true I am glad. With strict enforcement nationwide it could have been much higher. Even the 80% Angry wishes for.
As long as Obama and other elected reps make excuses for illegals and dangle the hope of an amnesty we will never make solid gains.
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Old 09-01-2010, 02:17 PM
 
Location: Spokane via Sydney,Australia
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The unemployment rate for illegal immigrants in March 2009 was 10.4 percent — higher than that of U.S.-born workers or legal immigrants, who had unemployment of 9.2 percent and 9.1 percent, respectively
The UE rate for illegals should be 100% - nothing LESS.

So even though we HAVE no "definitive" number for how many illegals are in this country, we can however say their presence has declined by 8%? Back to "2005 levels of 12 million"?

Oh please - tell it to the fairies.............
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Old 09-01-2010, 02:59 PM
 
Location: Maryland
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Ok first of all as the pro-illegal side claims we really don't know the actual number of illegals in this country. So 8% of an unknown number one must assume that the 8% is also a fantacy number as well.
If it is true I am glad. With strict enforcement nationwide it could have been much higher. Even the 80% Angry wishes for.
As long as Obama and other elected reps make excuses for illegals and dangle the hope of an amnesty we will never make solid gains.
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The UE rate for illegals should be 100% - nothing LESS.

So even though we HAVE no "definitive" number for how many illegals are in this country, we can however say their presence has declined by 8%? Back to "2005 levels of 12 million"?

Oh please - tell it to the fairies.............
Thank you! I am always amused at these clairvoyant estimates. If the Feds donít know who they are or where they are, how on earth can a determination be made of a decline in their presence, or an increase in their unemployment? Miss Cleo?
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Old 09-01-2010, 03:03 PM
 
Location: Spokane via Sydney,Australia
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I also don't recall ANY question on the census forms I filled out asking if I was here illegally or legally..............yet these figures are based on "data derived from the census" ??
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Old 09-01-2010, 04:01 PM
 
Location: Maryland
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I also don't recall ANY question on the census forms I filled out asking if I was here illegally or legally..............yet these figures are based on "data derived from the census" ??
Interesting, isnít it? They donít ask immigration status (that would be racist); yet, they know the number currently here, the number employed/unemployed, the percentage that left, and their tax contributions. Unadulterated BS!
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Old 09-01-2010, 04:10 PM
 
Location: San Diego
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I also don't recall ANY question on the census forms I filled out asking if I was here illegally or legally..............yet these figures are based on "data derived from the census" ??

Is there a form on the census labeled "hunch"?
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Old 09-01-2010, 04:20 PM
 
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So they do know where to find them, or what?
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Old 09-01-2010, 04:59 PM
 
Location: CITY OF ANGELS AND CONSTANT DANGER
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Pew Hispanic Center (whom is often cited by Anti-illegals when it suits them) came out with the numbers.

it is based on census data and other numbers. its reliable.

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Thank you! I am always amused at these clairvoyant estimates. If the Feds donít know who they are or where they are, how on earth can a determination be made of a decline in their presence, or an increase in their unemployment? Miss Cleo?
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