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Old 09-02-2010, 02:12 PM
 
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Excellent link!
Here is another site with some interesting historical information behind the phrase "subject to the jurisdiction":

What 'Subject to the Jurisdiction Thereof' Really Means (http://federalistblog.us/2007/09/revisiting_subject_to_the_jurisdiction.html - broken link)

Actually, the comments that follow the blog entry are perhaps even more interesting than the article.
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Old 09-02-2010, 03:11 PM
 
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Are they "subject to the jurisdiction thereof" when laws aren't being enforced?
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Old 09-02-2010, 03:23 PM
 
Location: Tampa Florida
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I was watching FOS "news" today, they were reporting on this study. Two of their "experts" were discussing it. They were saying that the drop could be due to the lack of jobs or the increased border security, but most likely due to the new Ariz Law???? Now, this study ran thru early 2009. I think, if these guys are correct, we would be really dumb not to do what we can to get more illegals here? They obviously have been well trained in the science of Clairvoyance. Correct me if I am wrong, wasn't the Ariz political ploy a 2010 thing? Or is it that FOS "news", really believes their audience is that dumb? I wonder which it could be.
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Old 09-02-2010, 05:36 PM
 
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Looks like the recession and Arizona's law is working. Buit the violence just keeps spreading near the border which needs to be addressed before it gets worse .
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Old 09-02-2010, 05:54 PM
 
Location: Tampa Florida
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Looks like the recession and Arizona's law is working. Buit the violence just keeps spreading near the border which needs to be addressed before it gets worse .
Case in point.
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Old 09-02-2010, 07:28 PM
 
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This is a point of contention since other senators were the tradition prior to 1866 in which citizenship was jus soli. So were they following that tradition or not? If they were, then they are subject to the jurisdiction thereof (if a person commits a crime then they do the time as stated by the particular locale). Sen. Wilson of Iowa was one of those framers who interpreted the amendment as jus soli. It's a dicey one. So the question thus remains, are you in favor of H.R. 1868?
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Old 09-02-2010, 07:30 PM
 
Location: Sierra Vista, AZ
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When Texas secedes it won't be a problem, in fact Texans in the US ill be illegals
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Old 09-03-2010, 08:36 AM
 
Location: Texas
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Texas lawmakers don't care and don't address the illegal problem, they turn a blind eye.

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Old 09-03-2010, 09:02 AM
 
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Texas lawmakers don't care and don't address the illegal problem, they turn a blind eye.

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That is because they have always had a high concentration of Hispanics in that state.
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Old 09-05-2010, 10:10 AM
 
Location: North Texas
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That is because they have always had a high concentration of Hispanics in that state.
In south Texas maybe but not up here in DFW. It is shocking how bad it has become here in the last decade. You would not even recognize the place.
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