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Old 09-08-2010, 02:53 PM
 
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Mexico's foreign secretary... pushed... Bush ... to pass "comprehensive immigration reform" legislation.

Wouldn't that make Bush a traitor for cow-towwing to pressure from a foreigner?
Yep!
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Old 09-08-2010, 03:11 PM
 
Location: CITY OF ANGELS AND CONSTANT DANGER
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thats just effing ridiculous!!!! i didnt even read this article, but any blame put on anyone but the cartels is stupid.

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Jorge Castaneda Blames U.S. for Migrant Massacre
By Jerry Kammer, September 2, 2010

"Immigration Reform or More Massacres."

That's the provocative headline of today's column in the Mexican daily Reforma by Jorge Castaneda, who as Mexico's foreign secretary from 2000 to 2003 pushed the Bush administration to pass "comprehensive immigration reform" legislation. He is now Global Distinguished Professor of Politics and Latin American and Caribbean Studies at New York University.

Castaneda believes that unless the U.S. accepts the inevitability of large-scale migration of low-wage workers, it will be at fault for more slaughter like last week's horrific massacre of 72 illegal immigrants in the border state of Tamaulipas.

http://cis.org/kammer/castaneda-migrant-massacre
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Old 09-08-2010, 03:43 PM
 
Location: CITY OF ANGELS AND CONSTANT DANGER
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ok, upon further research and reading that "article" i doubt the source and validity of this claim. i would like to see the original article from the Reforma. i owuld like to see the text from that front page piece.
i have a feeling that some people are tying this issue (dead migrants) with the past statements castaneda has made... possibly during this debate:

Is America To Blame For Mexico's Drug War? : NPR

"In a vote before the debate, the audience at New York University's Skirball Center for the Performing Arts voted 43 percent in favor of the motion and 22 percent against; 35 percent were undecided. After the debate, 72 percent agreed that "America Is To Blame For Mexico's Drug War," while 22 percent remained against and 6 percent were still undecided."

the original link is kind of suspect to me.
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Old 09-08-2010, 04:14 PM
 
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That article has La Raza written all over it.
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Old 09-09-2010, 04:16 PM
 
Location: Oxygen Ln. AZ
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Mexico's foreign secretary... pushed... Bush ... to pass "comprehensive immigration reform" legislation.

Wouldn't that make Bush a traitor for cow-towwing to pressure from a foreigner?
I always thought and still think Bush was a disaster regarding our border. That does not give the sitting president a pass to do even worse. Obama is dangerously close to not protecting the borders of his own country. Where will that take us?
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Old 09-09-2010, 10:19 PM
 
Location: Under a bridge.
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....Obama is dangerously close to not protecting the borders of his own country. ...
No he is not "close." He has passed that line long ago.
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Old 09-10-2010, 01:34 AM
 
Location: San Diego North County
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Personal responsibility.

'Nuff said.
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Old 09-10-2010, 01:38 AM
 
Location: southern california
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america is not in charge of mexico's internal affairs, they are. it is mexico that needs to deal with its employment not us. we got problems of our own. everybody keeps telling us their problem is ours.
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