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Old 09-06-2010, 03:12 PM
 
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Life-saving aspects aside, this professor has used tax funds to aid and abet illegal entry. Furthermore, this GPS device was not exclusively designed to locate water. It also maps the route. He has essentially used technology to replace the “how-to” handbooks previously issued by the Mexican government to assist its citizens in violating our laws.

Illegal border crossers make a conscious decision to risk their lives; and U.S. taxpayers are not responsible for ensuring their safety. Should we also offer armed escorts to protect them from dangerous drug cartels?
I'm sorry I can't separate out the life saving aspect after the project has already started. And if you aren't going to talk about the life saving aspect then why bring it up in your second paragraph?
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Old 09-07-2010, 07:56 AM
 
Location: Maryland
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I'm sorry I can't separate out the life saving aspect after the project has already started. And if you aren't going to talk about the life saving aspect then why bring it up in your second paragraph?
When adults choose to engage in risky behavior, they alone, are responsible for the consequences. Some survive, while others die. It’s that simple. If I play Russian Roulette and blow a hole in my head, who other than me should be held accountable? Only an idiot doesn’t realize the inherent risks of a lengthy trek through a sweltering desert.
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Old 09-07-2010, 08:07 AM
 
Location: bold new city of the south
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When adults choose to engage in risky behavior, they alone, are responsible for the consequences. Some survive, while others die. It’s that simple. If I play Russian Roulette and blow a hole in my head, who other than me should be held accountable? Only an idiot doesn’t realize the inherent risks of a lengthy trek through a sweltering desert.


Failure on your part to look ahead and recognize a dangerous situation
(and an illegal one), does not constitute an emergency (or assistance
to your CRIME), on my part.

I don't give assistance to criminals breaking laws. That is called aiding
and abetting, a crime also. That jerk buying gps locators for CRIMINALS
should be fired, forced to pay back the money he illegally procured, and
prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Old 09-07-2010, 01:19 PM
 
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The Russian Roulette argument doesn't hold water. The whole point of Russian Roulette is to beat death. When one comes over the border illegally beating death is a primary concern, but it is not the reason why they come over in the first place.

To everyone on this thread, I'm not arguing about the legality of this. I'm arguing the human rights part of it. The law might be being broken, but that was something that the people who approved the project should have thought about. It is already currently going on. I don't feel we should take water away from these people.
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Old 09-07-2010, 02:37 PM
 
Location: Maryland
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The Russian Roulette argument doesn't hold water. The whole point of Russian Roulette is to beat death. When one comes over the border illegally beating death is a primary concern, but it is not the reason why they come over in the first place.

To everyone on this thread, I'm not arguing about the legality of this. I'm arguing the human rights part of it. The law might be being broken, but that was something that the people who approved the project should have thought about. It is already currently going on. I don't feel we should take water away from these people.
Anyone who is willing to risk their life to cross a border is essentially gambling with their life. They realize many die during their illegal trek. Yet, they continue to try their luck. The same as one who plays Russian Roulette.

When did it become a “human rights” issue to assist those who choose to enter our country illegally? No one is suggesting we take their water. We just don’t need to map a route for their illegal entry, or aid and abet. If I knew it would take X number of days to cross a desert, I would bring enough water to sustain my life, even if it meant I would have to travel at a slower pace. It’s their responsibility alone. If they die, that’s the chance they were obviously willing to take.
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Old 09-07-2010, 02:48 PM
 
Location: People's Republic of California
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He's a college professor, what does any expect, really?
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Old 09-07-2010, 03:27 PM
 
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Anyone who is willing to risk their life to cross a border is essentially gambling with their life. They realize many die during their illegal trek. Yet, they continue to try their luck. The same as one who plays Russian Roulette.

When did it become a “human rights” issue to assist those who choose to enter our country illegally? No one is suggesting we take their water. We just don’t need to map a route for their illegal entry, or aid and abet. If I knew it would take X number of days to cross a desert, I would bring enough water to sustain my life, even if it meant I would have to travel at a slower pace. It’s their responsibility alone. If they die, that’s the chance they were obviously willing to take.
It's gambling with your life, yes. But that's not the primary purpose of going over the border.

We'll have to agree to disagree on this. I understand your points, but do not agree with them. I still feel taking away the app would take away the water.
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Old 09-07-2010, 07:46 PM
 
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It's gambling with your life, yes. But that's not the primary purpose of going over the border.

We'll have to agree to disagree on this. I understand your points, but do not agree with them. I still feel taking away the app would take away the water.
How about human rights for the citizens of America who has been affected by illegal aliens that shouldn't have been here in the first place?
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Old 09-07-2010, 09:08 PM
 
Location: Spokane via Sydney,Australia
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It's gambling with your life, yes. But that's not the primary purpose of going over the border.

We'll have to agree to disagree on this. I understand your points, but do not agree with them. I still feel taking away the app would take away the water.
How the HELL does taking away the App take away the water???????

It's still there, just not as EASY to be led straight to it - jeeeeeeeeeeez
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Old 09-07-2010, 09:19 PM
 
Location: bold new city of the south
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How about human rights for the citizens of America who has been affected by illegal aliens that shouldn't have been here in the first place?

I agree. I say we take care of our country, not them.
We have unemployment, crime problems, and health
care issues attributed to illegals. They contribute
one tenth of what they take.
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