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Old 09-06-2010, 07:26 AM
 
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I think he's trying to prove that the economy was better for Arizona with the illegal immigrants there. I'm not really sure.
Even if it were true but it isn't when you weigh everything, we still have immigration laws and they must be abided by. The only argument that makes sense about this whole issue is the rule of law of which the illegal alien sympathizers can't make an argument against. Lawbreaking always benefits someone but it doesn't benefit the majority and in fact is an overall negative.
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Old 09-06-2010, 09:02 AM
 
Location: Maryland
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thirdly THIS IS THE ONE THE MOST IMPORTANT OF ALL
in 2008
they were 99,215 births in arizona
of those 41,925 births were white
and 42,925 births were hispanic

and 4,301 births were black

so adding the explosion of the latino growth which is growing 6.6 times faster than the whites, whites and blacks 4.3 times faster.
Sorry to burst your Reconquista bubble, but “Hispanic” is not a race. In fact, according to Census data, the vast majority of Hispanics self-identify as “white.” So, how are whites being supplanted by other whites? In case you don’t know, speaking Spanish or any other foreign language does not change one’s ancestry.
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Old 09-06-2010, 09:11 AM
 
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Sorry to burst your Reconquista bubble, but “Hispanic” is not a race. In fact, according to Census data, the vast majority of Hispanics self-identify as “white.” So, how are whites being supplanted by other whites? In case you don’t know, speaking Spanish or any other foreign language does not change one’s ancestry.
Wonder if people from Spain are also considered minorities here . Most Americans can't tell the difference between an Argentine and a Spaniard yet the Argentine is a disadvantaged ethnic minority somehow
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Old 09-06-2010, 09:20 AM
 
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Wonder if people from Spain are also considered minorities here . Most Americans can't tell the difference between an Argentine and a Spaniard yet the Argentine is a disadvantaged ethnic minority somehow
Crazy, isn’t it? I was married to a “white” Argentine, who is also perplexed at his “minority” designation in this country.
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Old 09-06-2010, 09:22 AM
 
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"Hispanics are the future"
Hispanics are the future with or without illegal immigration. The birthrate among Hispanics is far, far greater than among Anglos or any other significant population group. Many Anglos have chosen not to have children in order to indulge themselves and have all the "toys" they couldn't afford with children to raise. The inevitable result is easy to predict.
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Old 09-06-2010, 09:27 AM
 
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Meanwhile, Americans face the highest unemployment rate in recent history as illegal immigrants are coddled and encouraged to continue to take jobs from American citizens.

Real US unemployment rate at 16 pct: Fed official

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The real US unemployment rate is 16 percent if persons who have dropped out of the labor pool and those working less than they would like are counted, a Federal Reserve official said Wednesday. "If one considers the people who would like a job but have stopped looking -- so-called discouraged workers -- and those who are working fewer hours than they want, the unemployment rate would move from the official 9.4 percent to 16 percent, said Atlanta Fed chief Dennis Lockhart.
Yet more incentive to listen to the voice of the American people and enforce SB1070 in its entirety.

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Old 09-06-2010, 09:47 AM
 
Location: Maryland
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Hispanics are the future with or without illegal immigration. The birthrate among Hispanics is far, far greater than among Anglos or any other significant population group. Many Anglos have chosen not to have children in order to indulge themselves and have all the "toys" they couldn't afford with children to raise. The inevitable result is easy to predict.
Do you have statistics delineating the Hispanic birthrates for citizens versus illegal aliens? None of the Hispanics I know are procreating at the speed of light. They are responsible professionals who choose to limit their family size. Unlike illegal aliens who tend to have larger families at taxpayers’ expense.
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Old 09-06-2010, 09:57 AM
 
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Do you have statistics delineating the Hispanic birthrates for citizens versus illegal aliens?
Population Profile of the United States (http://www.census.gov/population/www/pop-profile/natproj.html - broken link)

The Hispanic population is growing faster than any other group.

Whites are voluntarily becoming extinct.
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Old 09-06-2010, 10:11 AM
 
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Population Profile of the United States (http://www.census.gov/population/www/pop-profile/natproj.html - broken link)

The Hispanic population is growing faster than any other group.

Whites are voluntarily becoming extinct.
I may have overlooked it, but I didn’t notice statistics on Hispanic illegal alien births. Any guess as to what percentage of the burgeoning Hispanic birthrate is due to illegal immigration?
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Old 09-06-2010, 10:13 AM
 
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I may have overlooked it, but I didn’t notice statistics on Hispanic illegal alien births. Any guess as to what percentage of the burgeoning Hispanic birthrate is due to illegal immigration?
A guess? A lot! But our government wants that and will do nothing to end it.
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