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Old 09-07-2010, 03:00 PM
 
Location: Maryland
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One of my best friends (black) of 35 years, who recently died, traveled with me to many places. In Mexico he would get catcalls and people calling him Michael Jackson, asking if he wanted to buy drugs, etc. When going to a restaurant or bar, many times the server would ask me (white) what he wanted to order instead of asking him..
That’s truly sad.
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Old 09-07-2010, 03:24 PM
 
Location: DFW
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You can't take back what you fought over and lost, signed a treaty, and were also paid money for.

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The person you are responding to is trying to get a reaction out of you, just ignore them.
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Old 09-07-2010, 03:26 PM
 
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The person you are responding to is trying to get a reaction out of you, just ignore them.
Not trying to get a reaction just saying how it is.
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Old 09-07-2010, 03:39 PM
 
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No i'm not a reconquista, what's happening now is the same thing that happened when europeans came to the new world, They took over the country when People already lived here and now the same thing is happening but the only difference is Mexicans aren't killing off white people in large numbers like the europeans did to the Natives.

And many of these mexican and central americans are mainly of Native descent, but the U.S. calls them hispanic.
No, it isn't the same. When the Europeans came here there were no immigration laws and this country was a wide open frontier with no centrally governing body or distinct borders.

I would rather the Mexicans fight us with guns and bullets rather than the cowards way with babies as they are doing. The native tribes who lived here long ago were just as vicious as any white European was. The native indian ancestors of the Mexicans were from tribes south of our border not the U.S. We have treaties with those tribes who were native to the U.S.

No, most Mexicans are of mixed race. Most are of Spanish and indian ancestry. The Spanish part of them is what makes them Hispanic. Those white Europeans that you say killed the natives were also the Spaniards which are the ancestors of the Mestizo Mexicans so if one wants to attribute guilt about the past to the Anglo-white Europeans then they should also blame their own hispanic-white ancestors from Spain.
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Old 09-07-2010, 03:48 PM
 
Location: Maryland
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No, it isn't the same. When the Europeans came here there were no immigration laws and this country was a wide open frontier with no centrally governing body or distinct borders.

I would rather the Mexicans fight us with guns and bullets rather than the cowards way with babies as they are doing. The native tribes who lived here long ago were just as vicious as any white European was. The native indian ancestors of the Mexicans were from tribes south of our border not the U.S. We have treaties with those tribes who were native to the U.S.

No, most Mexicans are of mixed race. Most are of Spanish and indian ancestry. The Spanish part of them is what makes them Hispanic. Those white Europeans that you say killed the natives were also the Spaniards which are the ancestors of the Mestizo Mexicans so if one wants to attribute guilt about the past to the Anglo-white Europeans then they should also blame their own hispanic-white ancestors from Spain.
Absolutely! Their exploitation of children is perhaps the most reprehensible of all illegal alien tactics.
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Old 09-07-2010, 04:38 PM
 
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No, it isn't the same. When the Europeans came here there were no immigration laws and this country was a wide open frontier with no centrally governing body or distinct borders.

I would rather the Mexicans fight us with guns and bullets rather than the cowards way with babies as they are doing. The native tribes who lived here long ago were just as vicious as any white European was. The native indian ancestors of the Mexicans were from tribes south of our border not the U.S. We have treaties with those tribes who were native to the U.S.

No, most Mexicans are of mixed race. Most are of Spanish and indian ancestry. The Spanish part of them is what makes them Hispanic. Those white Europeans that you say killed the natives were also the Spaniards which are the ancestors of the Mestizo Mexicans so if one wants to attribute guilt about the past to the Anglo-white Europeans then they should also blame their own hispanic-white ancestors from Spain.

It doesn't matter that there were no immigration laws, The natives made their living on this land and europeans just came over and took it anyway.

Most of those Mexicans and central americans that come here have a dominant native ancestry, that spanish blood they have is because of the spaniards who raped the native women, How many of them look spanish to you? and how many have a native look, most of them.

The real hispanics and latinos are european.
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Old 09-07-2010, 04:50 PM
 
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It doesn't matter that there were no immigration laws, The natives made their living on this land and europeans just came over and took it anyway.

Most of those Mexicans and central americans that come here have a dominant native ancestry, that spanish blood they have is because of the spaniards who raped the native women, How many of them look spanish to you? and how many have a native look, most of them.
It DOES matter because those native indians held no ownership papers. They came over here from somewhere else themselves. They didn't just sprout up out of the ground like corn. What does this have to do with the Mexicans coming here illegally anyway? Their ancestoral tribes weren't even from the U.S.

No, according to the CIA Worldfact Book, 60% of Mexicans are of mixed Spanish and native indian blood. Only a small number are pure blooded Aztec or Mayan.

Some Aztecs or Mayan women may have been raped but certainly not the bulk of them. If so, prove it! It doesn't matter anyway. You cannot deny your genetics whether or not your mother was raped. Some Mestizo Mexicans have a white mother and a native indian father for that matter. Many Mexicans have very light skin and they got it from their Spanish ancestors.

All this digging up of the past is totally irrelevant to the present. We are now a soverign nation with borders and have the right to enforce our immigration laws just like any other country in the world including Mexico. Throughout history lands have exchanged hands and wars have been fought over land. Deal with it! At least we paid Mexico 15 million for some southwest territories and forgave them many debts to acquire them. I hate a sore loser later on.
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Old 09-07-2010, 05:17 PM
 
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I have encountered blacks who are shockingly oblivious to the issue of illegal immigration. They had no knowledge of its detriment to this country, or blacks in particular. Of course it doesn’t help having the likes of Al and Jesse advocating for illegal aliens. Sadly, their apologists are loyal to a fault, and automatically assume if they’re involved, it must be a just cause.

A few weeks ago, I had a discussion with a black male friend. He was appalled when I told him I support SB 1070, and asked how I could support racism and racial profiling. We had a lengthy discussion which culminated with his support for SB 1070. Many simply need to be enlightened.
Unfortunately alot of Americans are like this until the Gangs,Graffitti and blight show up and their kids have trouble finding jobs.

Most Illegals would rather deal with their own and exclude other Minorities such as Blacks and Asians.If you've worked around alot of them. You will hear/see them refer to Blacks as Changos(monkeys), Miatas (Mya tays= little black insects) All Asians as Chinos(Chinamen) but this is allright to them. Mexico's finest aren't coming here in mass,we are getting their illiterate backwards Idiots.

This is why we have immigration laws in the first place,to keep out Idiots,Criminals,welfare cases and and other undesireables and since these parasites choose to break the law by sneaking in this is what we are getting here.
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Old 09-07-2010, 05:36 PM
 
Location: San Diego North County
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There not illegals in reality cali and much of the south west belongs to mexico, Their just taking back old territory.
Oh lord...not this old song and dance again.

The southwest was technically Mexican territory for 24 years. Twenty four.

No more.

During that time it was a confusing hodgepodge of Spanish colonials who had pledged loyalty to the Mexican government--each trying to best each other for control of vast amounts of mostly unpopulated chunks of land.

Prior to that, the Spanish had controlled the southwest, subjugating, enslaving, and in some cases, decimating the Native American populations.

Simply because some of the population of modern day Mexico can boast indigenous heritage in addition to their dreaded "white European" Spanish blood does not give them carte blanche to attempt a modern day reconquista. If you believe that sort of nonsense, then along that same line of reasoning, Mexico should actually belong to Spain.
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Old 09-07-2010, 06:36 PM
 
Location: square thing with a roof
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Blacks wouldn’t be sitting at the back of the bus. They wouldn’t even be allowed ON the bus.
Benicar, I don't think that would ever happen. All of your white brothers and sisters would stand with you. I know I would!
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