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Old 09-07-2010, 01:33 PM
 
Location: John & Ken-ville
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The Obama administration is treading on thin ice.

They are playing with treason in my opinion.

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Employers who hire illegal immigrants can be fined, but the Obama administration warned this week that they also can be fined for asking legal immigrants to show their green card before hiring them.


Employers warned not to ask legal immigrants to show green cards - The Denver Post
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Old 09-07-2010, 01:51 PM
 
Location: Long Island, NY
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And the wussification of America continues... don't want to offend someone by asking for proof they are here legally.
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Old 09-07-2010, 01:57 PM
 
Location: Spokane via Sydney,Australia
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An I-9 is usually filled out AFTER a person is hired. To ask ANY person to fill it out PRIOR to hiring would be leaving the potential employer open to claims of discrimination.

The I-9 form asks specifically for documents from columns A (which includes passports, Green card)OR from B AND C (which includes DL and SS card). If I supply a document from A I am not supposed to be asked to provide documents from B or C (but I always am, and will argue the point). If you can supply Dl & SS card then they can't ask to see a GC as well (technically).


There's no REASON for a POTENTIAL employer to ask for any of these documents PRIOR to hire as they are legally covered -

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Employees have 3 days after they are hired to supply the necessary I-9 documents. An employee who doesn’t supply the documents on the third day can legally be terminated


Plenty of job ads do specify "must be authorised to work in the USA" however.
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Old 09-07-2010, 02:11 PM
 
Location: John & Ken-ville
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Job applications ask for social security number. When you're hired you have to produce it. And a legal immigrant should show proof of their immigration status prior to hiring them.
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Old 09-07-2010, 02:14 PM
 
Location: Spokane via Sydney,Australia
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I don't give my SSN on online job apps. and as to the rest, see my post above yours. If a LEGAL immigrant is required to provide proof then so should EVERY applicant, including citizens.
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Old 09-07-2010, 03:46 PM
 
Location: Oklahoma(formerly SoCalif) Originally Mich,
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Then what's the purpose of it?
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Old 09-07-2010, 03:48 PM
 
Location: Spokane via Sydney,Australia
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Then what's the purpose of it?
It's to verify your right to work in the USA, obviously. It's just possibly discriminatory hiring practices to ask for it BEFORE an applicant is hired.

Hell it's not like you ask prospective voters to prove they have a legal right to vote
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Old 09-07-2010, 04:07 PM
 
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It's to verify your right to work in the USA, obviously. It's just possibly discriminatory hiring practices to ask for it BEFORE an applicant is hired.

Hell it's not like you ask prospective voters to prove they have a legal right to vote
I hardly think it is discriminating. An employer doesn't want to go through the whole interview process and hire someone only to find out later that they aren't authorized to work in this country. It is a waste of the employers time. It just makes sense to ask right up front IMO.
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Old 09-07-2010, 04:17 PM
 
Location: Spokane via Sydney,Australia
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I hardly think it is discriminating. An employer doesn't want to go through the whole interview process and hire someone only to find out later that they aren't authorized to work in this country. It is a waste of the employers time. It just makes sense to ask right up front IMO.

It should be assumed that a person has the right to work in the USA - the I-9 is to VERIFY that. It should also be assumed that the employee is AWARE they need to be legally able to work in this country. It's not rocket science.

Personally I think the whole "issue" is a storm in a teacup frankly.
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Old 09-07-2010, 04:24 PM
 
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It's to verify your right to work in the USA, obviously. It's just possibly discriminatory hiring practices to ask for it BEFORE an applicant is hired.

Hell it's not like you ask prospective voters to prove they have a legal right to vote
I've filled out applications where I had to fill out the I-9 forms during the application process. of course yes I did have the option of providing the documents after I'd been hired.
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