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Old 09-08-2010, 08:55 PM
 
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Originally Posted by inturbide1981 View Post
hey everone in america is breaking the law, those illegals that are breaking I can assure you that our government has already sent him a ITIN NUMBER FOR HIM TO REPORT HIS INCOME...

but hey thanks for getting of the subject.

theres proof that those states have become hispanic dominated and
its transation so far its good, thats why there needs to be a reform
So according to you, everyone in America is breaking the law so dirtbag illegals who steal identities are justified in your mind??

 
Old 09-08-2010, 08:59 PM
 
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http://www.cdph.ca.gov/data/statisti...-2008-0505.pdf

http://www.cdph.ca.gov/data/statisti...-2008-0204.pdf

and I did not forget about you my friend.

in 2008

they were 234,072 deaths in california

out of those deaths 157,064 of them were whites

and for hispanic deaths 37,376


live births they were 551,567 births in california
of those births 287,323 births to hispanics
and of those births 146,309 births were to whites.


diffrence "drums rolling"
in 2008 alone they were 10,755 less whites in california by natural reasons.. while hispanics grew and enormous 249,947


get it? its not that whites are styrile, its just that the older are dying faster then the young are able to reproduce...now YOU GET THE
replacemen rate?
Perhaps a box of kleenex would take care of that apparent glee driven drool running down your chin while writing those statements? Hispanics are the majority in 22 countries on the Western Hemisphere are you looking to take number 23? What's next, Canada? Sad, that it has to be via illegal immigration and babies. The coward's way of conquering. What a proud legacy it will be.

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Old 09-08-2010, 09:18 PM
 
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a socialist in the making, and the latest convert of the viva La Raza reconquesta propaganda web sites, with heroic fantasies of being the next Che Guevara...lol. Carry on my friend .
Che was an Argentinian, not a Mexican, and he advocated fixing the problem at the source, not leeching off of other people's hard work. He was a freedom fighter in the trenches, not a whiny coward who wouldn't work to fix his own problems, rather than worming away the jobs of the uneducated and disadvantaged. The fact is, that so many people coming into the country, at the rate they have been, will use up all the resources and cause the country to collapse.

http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...26727128068265

Illegal immigration only makes things better for the illegal immigrants, and even then only temporarily. The fact that people like the author of this thread seem to get one idea into thier head about what they want so bad to where they can't hear sense makes me think that there is something universally deficient in them mentally, and another reason they shouldn't be allowed to make decisions in this country. Let's look at your own policies for illegal immigration.

Mexico's illegals laws tougher than Arizona's - Washington Times

"Under the Mexican law, illegal immigration is a felony, punishable by up to two years in prison. Immigrants who are deported and attempt to re-enter can be imprisoned for 10 years. Visa violators can be sentenced to six-year terms. Mexicans who help illegal immigrants are considered criminals.

The law also says Mexico can deport (any) foreigners who are deemed detrimental to "economic or national interests," violate Mexican law, are not "physically or mentally healthy" or lack the "necessary funds for their sustenance" and for their dependents."

For us not to protect our own borders is by far the dumbest thing this country has ever done. The job would get done without Mexicans, like always. That's why this is America, not Mexico.
AlabamaStorm, u r awesome man!

Last edited by Cherisen; 09-08-2010 at 09:38 PM..
 
Old 09-08-2010, 09:22 PM
 
Location: texas
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Perhaps a box of kleenex would take care of that apparent glee driven drool running down your chin while writing those statements? Hispanics are the majority in 22 countries on the Western Hemisphere are you looking to take number 23? What's next, Canada? Sad, that it has to be via illegal immigration and babies. The coward's way of conquering. What a proud legacy it will be.
were not conquering anything, where america, these is our home, our front troops in iraq and afghanistan is 20% hispanic, now
that were cowards? lol you have it wrong.

I am not going to bring nationalities into here, because thats not what is about if thats how you want to see it so be it.

but hispanics normally to anglos especially the ones in texas,
welcome the texan to come to mexico to become catholic and respect the laws then what did they do? and the the rest of mexico? and how about the indians making treaties and killing them when you weaken them promising them provisions for the winter....

nobody is conquering nothing and if were going to talk about history then
youre ancestors were just as cowards as the ones right now.


now you get it? there not sterile there just dying faster than there making them, and the goverment of america knows that, thats why there welcoming them, were the future troops that would be protecting america from china, russia, and to keep americas power intact, what youll want is and enclosed america that practically declares himself a declining power.
 
Old 09-08-2010, 09:28 PM
 
Location: texas
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a socialist in the making, and the latest convert of the viva La Raza reconquesta propaganda web sites, with heroic fantasies of being the next Che Guevara...lol. Carry on my friend .[/quote]

Che was an Argentinian, not a Mexican, and he advocated fixing the problem at the source, not leeching off of other people's hard work. He was a freedom fighter in the trenches, not a whiny coward who wouldn't work to fix his own problems, rather than worming away the jobs of the uneducated and disadvantaged. The fact is that so many people coming into the country at the rate they have been will use up all the resources and cause the country to collapse.

Immigration_by_the_Numbers.mov

Illegal immigration only makes things better for the illegal immigrants and even then only temporarily. The fact that people like the author of this thread seem to get one idea into thier head about what they want so bad to where they can't hear sense makes me think that there is something universally deficient in them mentally, and another reason they shouldn't be allowed to make decisions in this country. Let's look at your own policies for illegal immigration. For us not to protect our own borders is by far the dumbest thing this country has ever done.

"Mexico's immigration laws tougher than Arizona"
Mexico's illegals laws tougher than Arizona's - Washington Times

"Under the Mexican law, illegal immigration is a felony, punishable by up to two years in prison. Immigrants who are deported and attempt to re-enter can be imprisoned for 10 years. Visa violators can be sentenced to six-year terms. Mexicans who help illegal immigrants are considered criminals.

The law also says Mexico can deport (any) foreigners who are deemed detrimental to "economic or national interests," violate Mexican law, are not "physically or mentally healthy" or lack the "necessary funds for their sustenance" and for their dependents."[/quote]

see it doesnt matter what mexico does thats why its more deficient then america, illegals are following the invisible hand adam smith mention in
his book wealth of nations

Invisible hand - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

For Smith, the invisible hand was created by the conjunction of the forces of self-interest, competition, and supply and demand, which he noted as being capable of allocating resources in society.


and if I was the mexican presiden and hear criticism of my immigration policies I would say to that.

let every chinese, ecuadorean, cuban, argentinian, central american
come theres no regulation or enforcement.

lol youll know what would happen?

add another 400,000 from outside mexico trying to come in into the united states.

use logic and common sense, lets pray that mexico continues his policy of immigration enforcement.

since there not corrupt and not easily bribed? lol....
 
Old 09-08-2010, 09:44 PM
 
Location: San Diego North County
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Che was an Argentinian, not a Mexican, and he advocated fixing the problem at the source, not leeching off of other people's hard work. He was a freedom fighter in the trenches, not a whiny coward who wouldn't work to fix his own problems, rather than worming away the jobs of the uneducated and disadvantaged. The fact is that so many people coming into the country at the rate they have been will use up all the resources and cause the country to collapse.

Immigration_by_the_Numbers.mov

Illegal immigration only makes things better for the illegal immigrants and even then only temporarily. The fact that people like the author of this thread seem to get one idea into thier head about what they want so bad to where they can't hear sense makes me think that there is something universally deficient in them mentally, and another reason they shouldn't be allowed to make decisions in this country. Let's look at your own policies for illegal immigration.

Mexico's illegals laws tougher than Arizona's - Washington Times

"Under the Mexican law, illegal immigration is a felony, punishable by up to two years in prison. Immigrants who are deported and attempt to re-enter can be imprisoned for 10 years. Visa violators can be sentenced to six-year terms. Mexicans who help illegal immigrants are considered criminals.

The law also says Mexico can deport (any) foreigners who are deemed detrimental to "economic or national interests," violate Mexican law, are not "physically or mentally healthy" or lack the "necessary funds for their sustenance" and for their dependents."

For us not to protect our own borders is by far the dumbest thing this country has ever done. AlabamaStorm, u r awesome man!
For the most part, I like your post.

However, I take exception to your description of Che Guevara.

Che Guevara - Revolutionary, Murderer or just a T-shirt icon? - Cuba Culture News - Havana Journal

Quote:
Ernesto “Che” Guevara’s face is a familiar one around the world, stamped on shirts, hats, postcards, lighters and other items. To some, the famous picture of the revolutionary with the beret, long hair, scraggly moustache and faraway gaze, symbolizes idealism and rebellion.

To many Cuban exiles, however, he’s a ruthless killer who helped establish a totalitarian regime in their homeland.

An Argentine doctor, Guevara fought alongside Fidel Castro in the revolution that overthrew Fulgencio Batista’s government in Cuba. He held various posts with the new government and was involved in attempts to export Cuba’s revolution to other countries. During one such attempt in 1967, he was caught and executed in Bolivia, cementing his legend for those who saw the Marxist as an anti-establishment icon.

The growing myth bothers people such as Prieto, who say it glorifies a man who put scores of Cubans to death by firing squad.

“I think of my father or my mother who lived seeing people get taken away by Che Guevara and his henchmen,” said Prieto, 39. “I can’t imagine the pain that they must feel to see a kid on television rapping, wearing a Che Guevara T-shirt.”
Che Guevara was a murderer, not a hero. The fact that people in this country continue to idolize a man who despised everything the United States of America stood for absolutely boggles the mind.
 
Old 09-08-2010, 10:00 PM
 
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Originally Posted by inturbide1981 View Post
see it doesnt matter what mexico does thats why its more deficient then america, illegals are following the invisible hand adam smith mention in
his book wealth of nations

Invisible hand - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

For Smith, the invisible hand was created by the conjunction of the forces of self-interest, competition, and supply and demand, which he noted as being capable of allocating resources in society.


and if I was the mexican presiden and hear criticism of my immigration policies I would say to that.

let every chinese, ecuadorean, cuban, argentinian, central american
come theres no regulation or enforcement.

lol youll know what would happen?

add another 400,000 from outside mexico trying to come in into the united states.

use logic and common sense, lets pray that mexico continues his policy of immigration enforcement.

since there not corrupt and not easily bribed? lol....
That's what i mean about getting one idea into your head to where you can't see things anymore. The Mexican President didn't come up with those laws for immigration. That's a guy that those guys elected into office. Nothing more than that. Just like they elect officials and Senators because their governmental system for democracy was copied, just like many nations, from ours. I understand that there is rampant corruption in their government. I'd like you to show me a place in the world where that isn't happening. You have to fix that yourself, not bring it here. I understand the difference between Mexicans who live in Mexico City and the elite peoples with mostly Spanish blood who control the money, and use every opportunity to exploit the Mexicans with mostly native blood, but they have to understand, flooding our borders with the unwanted is a part of thier plan. There's no great mystery as to why the richest man in the world is now a Mexican. What those people are doing creates a catastrophic imbalance both in the economy and socially since most of them don't really care anything about America. Look at black people in America and what they have gone through, and how hard they have worked to get out of that misery. Now one of them is our President, and he is just as bad as all the rest. I guarantee without what they did there would be shooting ranges set up at the border right now. "Texas Ted's Mexishoot"

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Old 09-08-2010, 10:05 PM
 
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but I like Che tho...
 
Old 09-08-2010, 10:14 PM
 
Location: texas
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That's what i mean about getting one idea into your head to where you can't see things anymore. The Mexican President didn't come up with those laws for immigration. That's a guy that you guys elected into office. Nothing more than that. Just like you elect officials and Senators because your governmental system for democracy was copied, just like many nations, from ours. I understand that there is rampant corruption in your government. I'd like you to show me a place in the world where that isn't happening. You have to fix that yourself, not bring it here. I understand the difference between Mexicans who live in Mexico City and the elite peoples with mostly Spanish blood who control the money, and use every opportunity to exploit the Mexicans with mostly native blood, but you have to understand, flooding our borders with the unwanted is a part of thier plan. There's no great mystery as to why the richest man in the world is now a Mexican. What your people are doing creates a catastrophic imbalance both in the economy and socially since most of your people don't really care anything about America. Look at black people in America and what they have gone through, and how hard they have worked to get out of that misery. Now one of them is our President, and he is just as bad as all the rest. I guarantee without what they did there would be shooting ranges set up at the border right now. "Texas Ted's Mexishoot"
US Subsidies Cost Mexican Farmers Billions | Portal for North America (http://www.portalfornorthamerica.org/spotlight/2010/02/us-subsidies-cost-mexican-farmers-billions - broken link)
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_iN6_nIJQcb...ta+cartoon.jpg

see and you dont see the bigger picture,

youre right I am not going to discuss that with you.

1. they were three programs regarding legally workers coming here
before the depression, bracero program and todays
and the first two times mexico was responsible believe it or not, they wanted to regulate the workers so they would not be exploited and guess what the ranchers did not like that I idea they sent agents to bribe mexican officials to perceive migrants to come up north.

2. why does the usa subsides corn when its not profitable to produce and goes and dumps it into mexico? drestroying the way the poor make their living.

3. why all the maquiladores were constructed at the border and not at southern mexico where the poor are?

4. dont we have the strongest military in the world? protecting skorea, japan, europe, iraq, free of oil outflow in the middle east, and more programs that I cannot mention, and your going to tell me america cannot prevent the illegal from coming? if you believe that then your fooling yourself.

the mexican worker its one of the most passive workers you will fine
he gets paid at 2 dollars and hour and if he gets hurt then tough luck
the corporations down there can replace him in a yippi, its that what america exports?

we could sit here and talk these for hours and days, and trust me the weak one in paper and in life is mexico not the usa,

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Old 09-08-2010, 10:22 PM
 
Location: texas
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That's what i mean about getting one idea into your head to where you can't see things anymore. The Mexican President didn't come up with those laws for immigration. That's a guy that you guys elected into office. Nothing more than that. Just like you elect officials and Senators because your governmental system for democracy was copied, just like many nations, from ours. I understand that there is rampant corruption in your government. I'd like you to show me a place in the world where that isn't happening. You have to fix that yourself, not bring it here. I understand the difference between Mexicans who live in Mexico City and the elite peoples with mostly Spanish blood who control the money, and use every opportunity to exploit the Mexicans with mostly native blood, but you have to understand, flooding our borders with the unwanted is a part of thier plan. There's no great mystery as to why the richest man in the world is now a Mexican. What your people are doing creates a catastrophic imbalance both in the economy and socially since most of your people don't really care anything about America. Look at black people in America and what they have gone through, and how hard they have worked to get out of that misery. Now one of them is our President, and he is just as bad as all the rest. I guarantee without what they did there would be shooting ranges set up at the border right now. "Texas Ted's Mexishoot"
you seem to know a little about latin americas history,
do you know americas stance regarding the ezln? the indians that revolted in chiapas? after nafta was signed? see the indians the mos indeginous of mexico and the ones with more poverty realized what
scheme usa and mexico were planning
now that nafta is a disaster to both countries do you think americans would had supported the ezln, instead of allowing the american government in supplying mexico with weapons and helicopters to supress their rebellion.

mexico its not exporting nothing AMERICA IS NOT ALLOWING.
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