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Old 09-21-2010, 02:36 PM
 
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Good news. The vote for cloture was 56 yeas and 43 no's. 60 yeas were needed for the bill to continue on for debate on the amendments and for a final vote. The bill is toast for now!
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Old 09-21-2010, 02:38 PM
 
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Also, it is such a lie that "this is the only country they know." These Senators who are supporting this bill are obviously trying to sway people to believe these lies. Every undocumented person I have met and a lot of the youth are SO loyal to Mexico, Guatemala, Honduras, etc. They believe they are nationals of those countries before being American and this is the MAJORITY of what I have seen if not all. So, to act like they have some sort of allegiance to us is ridiculous. What undocumented people do is sit back and let people like Senator Durbin fight for them as they wait to get more benefits from the US, all the while they are living the "Viva La Raza" life of announcing their allegiance to their native country while living in the US.
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Old 09-21-2010, 02:39 PM
 
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GREAT!!!
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Old 09-21-2010, 02:42 PM
 
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Oh great, it's McCain.
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Old 09-21-2010, 02:46 PM
 
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Great except................Reid voted nay in order to be able to revive the bill at later date. It's a common tactic of his when he sees something he wants going down in flames.
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Old 09-21-2010, 02:50 PM
 
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Great except................Reid voted nay in order to be able to revive the bill at later date. It's a common tactic of his when he sees something he wants going down in flames.
He can revive it, but we will continue to defeat amnesty.
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Old 09-21-2010, 02:53 PM
 
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It was a messy bill. I don't understand why they put the senators under so much pressure. They will have fifty million measures in a bill and you may agree with one, but in order to pass that, you have to vote for the whole bill which may include a larger number of and more drastic measures that you don't agree with. For instance, apparently, the bill contains an increase in pay for military personnel. That's not the best example because tight senators who don't want more spending would vote against that, but what about the person that is OK with that, but doesn't support Don't Ask Don't Tell repeal or the Dream Act? Should all of those things be combined into one bill? Then, afterwards, one of the speaking senators tried to play the guilt trip on the senators who voted nay by trying to say that they turned their backs on the soldiers.
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Old 09-21-2010, 02:53 PM
 
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He can revive it, but we will continue to defeat amnesty.
Hopefully more Americans are coming to realise this is just Hispandering on the part of their elected officials who are supposed to be guarding THEIR rights, not those of illegals.
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Old 09-21-2010, 02:54 PM
 
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It was a messy bill. I don't understand why they put the senators under so much pressure. They will have fifty million measures in a bill and you may agree with one, but in order to pass that, you have to vote for the whole bill which may include a larger number of and more drastic measures that you don't agree with. For instance, apparently, the bill contains an increase in pay for military personnel. That's not the best example because tight senators who don't want more spending would vote against that, but what about the person that is OK with that, but doesn't support Don't Ask Don't Tell repeal or the Dream Act? Should all of those things be combined into one bill? Then, afterwards, one of the speaking senators tried to play the guilt trip on the senators who voted nay by trying to say that they turned their backs on the soldiers.
Just politics as usual.
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Old 09-21-2010, 02:55 PM
 
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Here's the cloture vote. Take a good hard look at those voting for Amnesty and don't let them back off of questions about it! Put the pressure on as it is ALL Democrats pushing Amnesty for illegals.

U.S. Senate: Legislation & Records Home > Votes > Roll Call Vote
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