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Old 09-21-2010, 01:07 PM
 
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Democrats are trying to push the Dream Act through Congress this year, “providing a path to citizenship for illegal immigrants who arrive in the United States before age 16, earn a high school diploma, reside here for at least five years and complete two years of college or military service,” according to the New York Times.
New Rasmussen Reports polling finds that most voters believe children brought to this country illegally who complete two years of college or serve in the military should get a chance at U.S. citizenship. But they also agree that allowing this route to citizenship just encourages more illegal immigration.
Fifty-two percent (52%) of Likely U.S. Voters think a child who is brought here illegally and completes two years of college should get a chance at citizenship. Thirty-six percent (36%) disagree and say they not get that opportunity, and 12% are not sure.
Support is even higher for those who serve honorably in the U.S. military. Seventy-eight percent (78%) say a child brought to this country illegally who is in the military ought to get a chance at citizenship.
Most Voters See College, Military As Ways for Children of Illegals To Become U.S. Citizens - Rasmussen Reports™
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Old 09-21-2010, 01:17 PM
 
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No! Not now, not ever. They want citizenship.....do it right. Do it legally. No amnesty by any name!
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Old 09-21-2010, 01:30 PM
 
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Fifty-two percent (52%) of Likely U.S. Voters think a child who is brought here illegally and completes two years of college should get a chance at citizenship. Thirty-six percent (36%) disagree and say they not get that opportunity, and 12% are not sure.

However, just 20% think local government should be required to provide a public school education for a child brought into the United States illegally by his or her parents. Sixty-four percent (64%) disagree and say local governments should not be required to educate the children of illegals. Fifteen percent (15%) aren’t sure.

Fifty-four percent (54%) of voters say the U.S. Justice Department should take legal action against cities that provide sanctuary for illegal immigrants. Even more think the federal government should cut off funds to these “sanctuary cities.”
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Old 09-23-2010, 09:58 AM
 
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They have no right to citzenship ,education or anything else if they came here illegally.This is another reason I will consider voting republican this year.
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Old 09-23-2010, 11:04 AM
 
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No! Not now, not ever. They want citizenship.....do it right. Do it legally. No amnesty by any name!
Interesting, how do you propose they do that since they came here illegally AS CHILDREN without any wrongdoing themselves? I mean, since you can't enter the legal path once you stayed here illegally?
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Old 09-23-2010, 11:06 AM
 
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If voters are supportive of the Nightmare Act, it is only because they don’t understand the ramifications of the passage of this bill. They have been fed a pack of lies, and inundated with sob stories of DREAMies who “only want to give back to the country they love.” Total BS! They don’t realize most who would benefit from this bill are not the "innocent children" touted by the bill sponsors. They are ADULTS who are working in this country by using stolen or fake SSNs. Visit the Dream Act Portal Forum and you’ll see how many have jobs. And, they were not all brought here by their parents. Many made the trek alone as teenagers. Do you think the bill will exclude them? Of course not.

Why should anyone who has managed to live in this country illegally for 5 years be rewarded for their lawlessness? Furthermore, the age limit is 35. If they had any intentions of attending college, why haven’t they? It’s not as if there aren’t several states welcoming them on their college campuses, and offering in-state tuition. Moreover, the passage of this bill would require all illegals between the ages of 12 and 35 to first be legalized to be eligible to remain in this country and pursue a college education or enter the military. It’s piecemeal amnesty, period. After the so-called college students and military recruits, they will draft a bill to legalize all with a steady work record. Then, it will be all disabled or infirmed. Please.
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Old 09-23-2010, 03:01 PM
 
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Interesting, how do you propose they do that since they came here illegally AS CHILDREN without any wrongdoing themselves? I mean, since you can't enter the legal path once you stayed here illegally?
Yes you can. And that is what is so awesome about our nice, nice country, we give people a chance, but yet they are asking for more. Instant gratification is what they want, instant and they demand it.
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Old 09-23-2010, 03:13 PM
 
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Yes you can. And that is what is so awesome about our nice, nice country, we give people a chance, but yet they are asking for more. Instant gratification is what they want, instant and they demand it.
They CAN apply to adjust their status as long as they have never been picked up on a criminal charge or been the subject of a deportation order.

But they prefer not to do this but rather wait in hopes of a blanket "amnesty", but to hear them tell it to the bleeding heart media the fact they're here illegally is all "YOUR" (meaning the USA) fault.
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Old 09-23-2010, 03:42 PM
 
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They CAN apply to adjust their status as long as they have never been picked up on a criminal charge or been the subject of a deportation order.

But they prefer not to do this but rather wait in hopes of a blanket "amnesty", but to hear them tell it to the bleeding heart media the fact they're here illegally is all "YOUR" (meaning the USA) fault.
I love that argument that it's all our fault. How do they think they GOT here? I don't know of, and have never heard of, a US citizen crossing the border and dragging back an illegal alien kicking and screaming. It's not their fault...ask them, they'll tell you. Most will say openly that their parents brought them. So it's not their fault and it's not our fault. Who's left? Oh yes...your PARENTS did this to you. Your parents screwed up your life, but the Amarican taxpayer is supposed to fix it?!
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Old 09-23-2010, 09:07 PM
 
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If voters are supportive of the Nightmare Act, it is only because they don’t understand the ramifications of the passage of this bill. They have been fed a pack of lies, and inundated with sob stories of DREAMies who “only want to give back to the country they love.” Total BS! They don’t realize most who would benefit from this bill are not the "innocent children" touted by the bill sponsors. They are ADULTS who are working in this country by using stolen or fake SSNs. Visit the Dream Act Portal Forum and you’ll see how many have jobs. And, they were not all brought here by their parents. Many made the trek alone as teenagers. Do you think the bill will exclude them? Of course not.

Why should anyone who has managed to live in this country illegally for 5 years be rewarded for their lawlessness? Furthermore, the age limit is 35. If they had any intentions of attending college, why haven’t they? It’s not as if there aren’t several states welcoming them on their college campuses, and offering in-state tuition. Moreover, the passage of this bill would require all illegals between the ages of 12 and 35 to first be legalized to be eligible to remain in this country and pursue a college education or enter the military. It’s piecemeal amnesty, period. After the so-called college students and military recruits, they will draft a bill to legalize all with a steady work record. Then, it will be all disabled or infirmed. Please.
Really irks you to see that there are other different points of view on this issue huh?
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