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Old 09-27-2010, 08:01 AM
 
Location: Maryland
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Foreign governments have much gall to whine because we deport their miscreants. Must we be the dumping ground for the scum of the entire world?

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In the Caribbean, governments say deportees are exacerbating crime in nations with high levels of violence such as Jamaica. On the smaller islands such as Grenada, once considered idyllic havens from gang violence, officials say the returning deportees are partly to blame for increasingly bold and sophisticated crimes and homicide rates soaring to record levels.

At the heart of the problem is the disparity of wealth between the United States, where migrants often learn their criminal ways, and their poor homelands, where jobs are scarce and police resources are limited. Moreover, islanders who often left their native lands as children return to countries they barely recognize, with no remaining family.
The Associated Press: Caribbean crime wave linked to US deportations
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Old 09-27-2010, 08:09 AM
 
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Not our problem. If they are not U.S. citizens then they are outta here.

Criminals aren't wanted anywhere.

Instead of them whining about it, why don't they do something?
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Old 09-27-2010, 08:10 AM
 
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Foreign governments have much gall to whine because we deport their miscreants. Must we be the dumping ground for the scum of the entire world?


The Associated Press: Caribbean crime wave linked to US deportations
we always want to seem to be the nice guy, that is the problem.


In the island's defense though, I think they are not used to the NY style violence and is just looking for help from the US because we are used to it here:

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Jean Nemorin, 47, who returned to Haiti in 2008, more than three decades after he arrived in the United States with his family at age 11, said there is a stigma attached to people like him when locals learn of their criminal past, making it tough to find work or a place to live.
"I struggled to feed myself for the first six months," Nemorin said. He declined to describe his conviction in the United States but said he is crime-free today
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"We are not responsible for them becoming monsters," Mayers said. "We need support to be able to rehabilitate these people."
In 2007, the U.S. launched a pilot program managed by the United Nations' International Organization for Migration to help reintegrate deportees.
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Old 09-27-2010, 08:15 AM
 
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Not our problem. If they are not U.S. citizens then they are outta here.

Criminals aren't wanted anywhere.

Instead of them whining about it, why don't they do something?
some of these small island can't handle it. Many of them have gdp's the size of yearly budgets of local universities in the US.

A lot of these islands are peaceful little rocks in the Caribbean sea, and the type of violence thee deportees are exhibiting are new to them. All they are asking for is help, they are not saying that the criminals should not be deported. I know it is not the US's problem, but giving a helping hand now and then doesn't take much either
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Old 09-27-2010, 08:46 AM
 
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some of these small island can't handle it. Many of them have gdp's the size of yearly budgets of local universities in the US.

A lot of these islands are peaceful little rocks in the Caribbean sea, and the type of violence thee deportees are exhibiting are new to them. All they are asking for is help, they are not saying that the criminals should not be deported. I know it is not the US's problem, but giving a helping hand now and then doesn't take much either
U.S. taxpayers foot the bills for these foreign criminals; including, their legal defense, incarceration, and deportation. We also send financial aid to their countries of origin. While I can appreciate their dilemma, their criminal population is their problem, not ours. Mexico has had the same complaint. They simply donít want us to deport their criminals. Iím sorry, but these countries must learn to solve their own problems.
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Old 09-27-2010, 09:07 AM
 
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U.S. taxpayers foot the bills for these foreign criminals; including, their legal defense, incarceration, and deportation. We also send financial aid to their countries of origin. While I can appreciate their dilemma, their criminal population is their problem, not ours. Mexico has had the same complaint. They simply donít want us to deport their criminals. Iím sorry, but these countries must learn to solve their own problems.
well crime is not knew to Mexico, it is a way of life down there
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Old 09-27-2010, 09:24 AM
 
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well crime is not knew to Mexico, it is a way of life down there
True. Nor is crime a new phenomenon to these Caribbean nations. Granted, they may be accustomed to a lower crime rate. Nevertheless, crime is a reality in every nation, and each country must address their respective issues. We canít be the problem solvers for the world. We have our own issues to address.
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Old 09-27-2010, 09:52 AM
 
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Not our problem. If they commit a crime here then they get deported, period. This is the United States where we punish criminals instead of feeling bad for them like in the UK and British Commonwealth realms (which Jamaica, Barbados, and Grenada happen to be).

Perhaps the Royal Grenada Police Force and the Royal Barbados Police Force should ditch the "British bobby" nonsense and enter the 21st century. Carrying of firearms by all officers is another change they must introduce. The British police system is not one a force should try to emulate - they are stuck in the 19th century, refuse to adopt modern policing methods, wear silly helmets that look like boobies, and are incredibly naive and out of touch with reality. I sometimes wonder how the British managed to conquer half the world with such a ridiculous policing system.
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Old 09-27-2010, 03:01 PM
 
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Then I offer an extremely cheap solution for these islands:

A box of 50 rounds of a typical caliber would yield approximately 31Ę per criminal and they will never be able to commit crimes ever again.
You can get cheap hardball off of sportsmanguide as low as 7 cents a round.

I'm just sayin
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Old 09-27-2010, 03:32 PM
 
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If they are committing crime back home, what makes these countries think we want those type of people here?
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