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Old 09-28-2010, 07:49 PM
 
Location: texas
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Originally Posted by Jess5 View Post
Of course Hispanics are growing faster than any other group. They breed like rabbits!
Like the other poster, I'm also surprised Missouri isn't being sued.

see that just shows complete ignorance, check the facts

the word they breed like rabbits its offensive,

I could dare you to see any historical information regarding countries
development of their outcome regarding their fertility rate, and by the assumptions of our historical perspectives,

I can assure you your mother is a rabbit as well, and if not that one then your grandmother, sorry to insult you, but just want to make it clear that
your opinion is offensive, and ignorant.

 
Old 09-28-2010, 07:53 PM
 
Location: texas
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Originally Posted by chicagonut View Post
Do you not see your own contradictions here? I'll let you find them.

"why would hispanics legal or illegal move to a state that doesnt grow"?

"and since illegals Have never been a problem in missouri? who are they blaming for their poor excuse of an economy"?
"even so hispanics are 3% of missouris population, In 2007, more than 178,000 Hispanics called Missouri home, an increase of 50.4 percent since 2000".

youre not helping me find anything, its called the invisible hand, and if you dont know that term well here it goes
economics 101
[LEFT]Term used by Adam Smith to describe the natural force that guides free market capitalism through competition for scarce resources.


missouri like any place in america, is america, its just not a magnet of growth like california, texas, arizona, new york, north carolina etc
has been for the uncontrolled growth they have gone thru this past forty years.
Read more: invisible hand Definition
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Old 09-28-2010, 08:20 PM
 
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Originally Posted by inturbide1981 View Post
youre not helping me find anything, its called the invisible hand, and if you dont know that term well here it goes
economics 101
[LEFT]Term used by Adam Smith to describe the natural force that guides free market capitalism through competition for scarce resources.


missouri like any place in america, is america, its just not a magnet of growth like california, texas, arizona, new york, north carolina etc
has been for the uncontrolled growth they have gone thru this past forty years.
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I didn't think I was going to have to show you your own contradictions. I thought you would find them on your own after reading what I quoted from you but since not, here goes.

First you ask why would a Hispanic whether they be legal or illegal move to a state that doesn't grow. But then you add that the Hispanic population in Missouri has increased by 50.4% since 2000. If that isn't contradicting yourself then I don't know what is. Since many of these are probably illegals you then claim that Missouri can't blame illegals for at least being a part of their economical problems.

Here is a copy of what you said below:


"why would hispanics legal or illegal move to a state that doesnt grow"?

"and since illegals Have never been a problem in missouri? who are they blaming for their poor excuse of an economy"?

"even so hispanics are 3% of missouris population, In 2007, more than 178,000 Hispanics called Missouri home, an increase of 50.4 percent since 2000".


















 
Old 09-28-2010, 08:30 PM
 
Location: texas
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Originally Posted by chicagonut View Post
Do you not see your own contradictions here? I'll let you find them.

"why would hispanics legal or illegal move to a state that doesnt grow"?

"and since illegals Have never been a problem in missouri? who are they blaming for their poor excuse of an economy"?
"even so hispanics are 3% of missouris population, In 2007, more than 178,000 Hispanics called Missouri home, an increase of 50.4 percent since 2000".
its so easy for missouri claim like their doing something.
missouri in 1970 had a population of 4,676,501
2009 population of 5,987,580 (increased for 40 years, 28.03%
arizona in 1970 had a population of 1,745,944
2009 population of 6,695,778 (increased for 40 years, 283%)

clearly arizonas problems are 10 times bigger, and did that relate to power?
in 1992 missouri economy was 115.2 billion (1.2 billion in welfare)
in 1992 arizona economy was 79.69 billion (0.97 billion in welfare)

in 2009 missouri economy was 234.78 billion (2.70 billion in welfare) 1.04% gdp in welfare
in 2009 arizona economy was 245.731 billion (3.34 billion in welfare) 1.35%gdp in welfare

I could not find records of either both during the 1970's but we can assume that ARIZONA HAS OVERSHADOWED MISSOURI economically

just by thinking that missouris economy was 2 times bigger then arizonas
in the 1970's * assumption of missouris bigger population.

TODAY IN THE 2009 arizonas economy is bigger and at the diffrence of 0.31% gdp regarding welfare (could we attribute that to illegals)
but lets see in the long run WHO HAS a bigger pension problem
arizona or missouri.

Demographics of Arizona - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Missouri - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Government Spending Chart in MO 1992-2015 - Federal State Local
 
Old 09-28-2010, 08:34 PM
 
Location: texas
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Originally Posted by chicagonut View Post
I didn't think I was going to have to show you your own contradictions. I thought you would find them on your own after reading what I quoted from you but since not, here goes.

First you ask why would a Hispanic whether they be legal or illegal move to a state that doesn't grow. But then you add that the Hispanic population in Missouri has increased by 50.4% since 2000. If that isn't contradicting yourself then I don't know what is. Since many of these are probably illegals you then claim that Missouri can't blame illegals for at least being a part of their economical problems.

Here is a copy of what you said below:


"why would hispanics legal or illegal move to a state that doesnt grow"?

"and since illegals Have never been a problem in missouri? who are they blaming for their poor excuse of an economy"?
"even so hispanics are 3% of missouris population, In 2007, more than 178,000 Hispanics called Missouri home, an increase of 50.4 percent since 2000".

















I get what youre trying to say, and I put it myself, what I am trying to tell you is that hispanics or any third wolrd country
what you see as and every day thing, they see it as an oppurtunity,
thats all, is that hard for you to understand?
of course they grew
what I am saying is that missouri has not been a
motor of growth for the locals nor the immigrants

what missouri grew economically in 40 years
arizona grew it in 10 years.....

check facts, statistics, just dont type because you have a keyboard
FOR ONCE.
 
Old 09-28-2010, 08:34 PM
 
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My family lives in Missouri and I've been there many times already. The growth of the Hispanic population there are not Puerto Ricans from PA, NY, NJ, FL, or PR so scratch that. Dominicans also don't live there since most of them live in NY, NJ, and PR so that can't be it. Most South Americans move to PR or FL. So based on firsthand observation, it's Mexican Hispanics that are moving to Missouri. According to inturbide, more than 178,000 Hispanics call Missouri home. One quick search and I turned up this: Despite mandatory status checks, Missouri troopers arrest fewer illegal immigrants - Columbia Missourian

The Pew Hispanic Center estimates that 60,000 of the Hispanics in Missouri are there illegally. So almost half of the Hispanics in Missouri ARE illegal think inturbide left that little factoid out
 
Old 09-28-2010, 08:41 PM
 
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I get what youre trying to say, and I put it myself, what I am trying to tell you is that hispanics or any third wolrd country
what you see as and every day thing, they see it as an oppurtunity,
thats all, is that hard for you to understand?
of course they grew
what I am saying is that missouri has not been a
motor of growth for the locals nor the immigrants

what missouri grew economically in 40 years
arizona grew it in 10 years.....

check facts, statistics, just dont type because you have a keyboard
FOR ONCE.
So these two sentences aren't a contradiction? I'm done with this.

"why would hispanics legal or illegal move to a state that doesnt grow"?

"In 2007, more than 178,000 Hispanics called Missouri home, an increase of 50.4 percent since 2000".
 
Old 09-28-2010, 08:51 PM
 
Location: texas
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Originally Posted by theunbrainwashed View Post
My family lives in Missouri and I've been there many times already. The growth of the Hispanic population there are not Puerto Ricans from PA, NY, NJ, FL, or PR so scratch that. Dominicans also don't live there since most of them live in NY, NJ, and PR so that can't be it. Most South Americans move to PR or FL. So based on firsthand observation, it's Mexican Hispanics that are moving to Missouri. According to inturbide, more than 178,000 Hispanics call Missouri home. One quick search and I turned up this: Despite mandatory status checks, Missouri troopers arrest fewer illegal immigrants - Columbia Missourian

The Pew Hispanic Center estimates that 60,000 of the Hispanics in Missouri are there illegally. So almost half of the Hispanics in Missouri ARE illegal think inturbide left that little factoid out


I am glad you point that FACTOID out for me, its just more carbon for the fire, so you are telling me that missouris illegal population is only 1% of missouris population? SO THANK YOU
SEE AND MISSOURI IS STILL A PIECE OF CRAP, NO DIFFRENCE, the problem is attribute by the locals,

has THE SAME PENSION PROBLEMS, ARIZONA, CALIFORNIA HAS,
HAS the same cut backs in pension programs, has the same deficits
Missouri > State > State Budget Solutions

and I can clearly state that
missouri is AN ILLEGAL FREE STATE, NO BLAME THERE FOR ILLEGALS
AND JUST SHOWS YOU THE REALITY OF THE REST OF THE STATES, but oh well theres no scapegoat here huh?

so to your answer thanks for pointing out that 1% of missouris population is illegal.
 
Old 09-28-2010, 08:53 PM
 
Location: Spokane via Sydney,Australia
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Originally Posted by chicagonut View Post
So these two sentences aren't a contradiction? I'm done with this.

"why would hispanics legal or illegal move to a state that doesnt grow"?

"In 2007, more than 178,000 Hispanics called Missouri home, an increase of 50.4 percent since 2000".
LOL, I was done with it a long time ago - you have way more patience than I do
 
Old 09-29-2010, 12:02 AM
 
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I have been reading a lot of different threads on this illegal immigration forum and it seems very clear that, while not all, many of these posts are blatantly hostile towards people of Spanish speaking descent no matter how they got to this country. Whether they choose to acknowledge it or not is another story.

While I am not in favor of illegal immigration, you cannot stop or delay time. What is happening in the U.S.A. today is not that different than what happened on Plymouth Rock so long ago. The undocumented, therefore illegal, European aliens of 1620 believed in the old English legal proverb of- "possession being nine-tenths of the law" - meaning that possession constituted most of the legal claim to ownership. So, you see, nothing has changed since that unprecedented move so long ago. Immigrants are acting in the same manner as our “founding fathers” did so long ago. I guess great minds really do think alike!

Inturbide, It’s really fruitless to try to discuss this in an intelligent or kind manner at any great length with "contrary" persons but it really makes for a fun read! Thanks!

The rabbit breeding comment is also to be laughed at. I would be sexually frustrated too if all day long I was spreading hate about immigrants and thinking about how much they had hot sex and reproduced. Hey, that’s kinda kinky if you think about it…… I would need a really cold shower. Oh, wait a minute…..that’s right they don’t reproduce like rabbits….ok, ok….my mistake, they need Viagra, not a cold shower, my bad. Once again, they are frustrated at the inevitable series of events they see unfolding all around them. It’s too bad that instead of wasting time on negativity they could be having some sweet “relations” of their own.

While very comical and entertaining, all of their impotent kicking and screaming is just that “impotent” (pun intended!) kicking and screaming. And like all fussy crying babies () what they really need is to be fed, have their diapers changed and put to bed....Oh yeah, and taught how to share and play nice.

I need a Chalupa, extra spicy, really fresh pico de gallo. Adios Amigos, Jersey Shore is on!!!

“All the problems we face in the United States today can be traced to an unenlightened immigration policy on the part of the American Indian.”
Pat Paulsen

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