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Old 10-13-2010, 02:33 PM
 
Location: Maryland
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First of all, this is mutually exclusive to the issue of uneducated low-skill illegal immigrants...none of those people would take the job I currently have, nor would they be given any job I would potentially seek going forward.

Secondly, there is probably no way I'd make more in a kitchen of a restaurant than I'd be making on unemployment...most unemployed Americans would be on this same boat.
The issue isnít you, me, or any skilled or educated person. Naturally, the low-skilled and uneducated, regardless of immigration status, pose no threat to the educated. Why are you so fixated on YOU? Illegal immigration has displaced millions of low-skilled legal workers. Consequently, they and their families are suffering. Clearly, your empathy is reserved for foreigners who feel nothing but disdain for this country. How truly sad.

You can only speak for yourself. If an unemployed citizen could only survive by working in a kitchen, there is no doubt in my mind he/she would. Remember, pride cometh before the fall.
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Old 10-13-2010, 02:38 PM
 
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Before hazarding a guess maybe you should take a look at the available jobs. This isn't rocket science. A bilingual uneducated American is an oxymoron.
Really? So, an uneducated U.S. citizen canít be fluent in more than one language after having been raised in a bilingual environment? Do tell.
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Old 10-13-2010, 03:38 PM
 
Location: Spokane via Sydney,Australia
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Before hazarding a guess maybe you should take a look at the available jobs. This isn't rocket science. A bilingual uneducated American is an oxymoron.
Apparently so is a bilingual uneducated Mexican?
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Old 10-13-2010, 04:24 PM
 
Location: Minneapolis, MN
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Massive gift? Tell that to the countless citizens whose credit has been ruined because narcissistic illegals are ďborrowingĒ their SSN, not to mention, creating a false tax liability. I can only imagine how blessed they must feel to have the IRS breathing down their necks, emptying their bank accounts, and garnishing their wages.

Letís not forget the unemployed citizens denied benefits because illegals are using their SSN, thus, state records indicate they are still employed. Or, the patients denied medical coverage because their benefits have been fraudulently exhausted by illegals. The list goes on, but Iím sure in your world, this illegal and unethical behavior can be justified.

The government may receive a massive amount from illegals, but it is but a drop in the bucket compared to the obscene amounts illegals receive in return. The average illegal does not earn enough to pay $15,000 or more in taxes; which, by the way, is the average annual tax burden for each illegal alien child enrolled in our public schools.

What a wonderful ďgift.Ē
I never disagreed with any of this, that's why I want increased access to legal immigration, had these people been documented in the first place these would be non-issues.
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Old 10-13-2010, 04:25 PM
 
Location: Minneapolis, MN
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Really? So, an uneducated U.S. citizen canít be fluent in more than one language after having been raised in a bilingual environment? Do tell.
Well, if a U.S. citizen is fluent in more than one language he/she would be more educated than a non-educated U.S. citizen who only speaks one language, relatively speaking.
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Old 10-13-2010, 04:30 PM
 
Location: Minneapolis, MN
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The issue isnít you, me, or any skilled or educated person. Naturally, the low-skilled and uneducated, regardless of immigration status, pose no threat to the educated. Why are you so fixated on YOU? Illegal immigration has displaced millions of low-skilled legal workers. Consequently, they and their families are suffering. Clearly, your empathy is reserved for foreigners who feel nothing but disdain for this country. How truly sad.

You can only speak for yourself. If an unemployed citizen could only survive by working in a kitchen, there is no doubt in my mind he/she would. Remember, pride cometh before the fall.
That's the problem, is people in here seem to invent problems and complain about things that don't actually affect them. It's this kind of obnoxious fear-monging that annoys me to no end. If you can't relate the stuff you're complaining about to yourself or people you know closely than why should you be complaining about it in the first place?

On a related note, if a tree falls over in the woods and nobody is around to hear it, does it make a sound? My answer to that is it probably does, but who really cares? Please go back to complaining about traffic, the weather, hangnails, and that canker sore in your mouth that you keep touching with your tongue, but when you do that it only makes it worse. My God.
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Old 10-13-2010, 04:48 PM
 
Location: Maryland
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That's the problem, is people in here seem to invent problems and complain about things that don't actually affect them. It's this kind of obnoxious fear-monging that annoys me to no end. If you can't relate the stuff you're complaining about to yourself or people you know closely than why should you be complaining about it in the first place?

On a related note, if a tree falls over in the woods and nobody is around to hear it, does it make a sound? My answer to that is it probably does, but who really cares? Please go back to complaining about traffic, the weather, hangnails, and that canker sore in your mouth that you keep touching with your tongue, but when you do that it only makes it worse. My God.
Thank God, the white people who helped the slaves escape through the Underground Railroad, and the white people who fought and died during the Civil Rights Movement didnít have your attitude. Without the help from people who were not slaves, and who were not black, I shudder to think what my life would be like today.

It is your prerogative not to care about millions of suffering U.S. citizens simply because illegal immigration has not adversely impacted your life. It is also my prerogative to give a damn.
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Old 10-13-2010, 04:54 PM
 
Location: Spokane via Sydney,Australia
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Yeah, strangely enough SOME of us do care even when the issues may not affect us DIRECTLY.

That said, I believe, unlike Slig, that unfettered illegal immigration does impact ALL of us.
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Old 10-13-2010, 05:00 PM
 
Location: Maryland
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Yeah, strangely enough SOME of us do care even when the issues may not affect us DIRECTLY.

That said, I believe, unlike Slig, that unfettered illegal immigration does impact ALL of us.
Indeed it does. Sadly, some are much too narcissistic to even realize this simple truth. As long as THEY are okay, everything is peachy.
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Old 10-13-2010, 05:03 PM
 
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I never disagreed with any of this, that's why I want increased access to legal immigration, had these people been documented in the first place these would be non-issues.
Right, let's "document" the whole world's poor and allow them all in. That will solve their problem but create a monstrous problem for us.
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