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Old 07-03-2007, 04:48 PM
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Some good news on the illegal immigration front:

Link:FOXNews.com - Arizona Governor Signs Law Making It Crime to Hire Illegals - Politics | Republican Party | Democratic Party | Political Spectrum (http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,287955,00.html - broken link)

PHOENIX Beginning in January, employers in Arizona could face having their business licenses suspended or revoked if they get caught hiring illegal immigrants.

A new law signed Monday by Gov. Janet Napolitano created the state crime of hiring illegal immigrants and requires all businesses to verify the employment eligibility of workers through a federal database.

It's intended to remove the economic incentive for immigrants to sneak across the border and help lessen Arizona's role as the busiest illegal gateway into the nation.

The Democratic governor said she signed the bill because the federal government has failed to overhaul the country's broken immigration policies, though she believes the new law contains flaws that should be fixed.

"I signed it, too, out of the realization that the flow of illegal immigration into our state is due to the constant demand of some employers for cheap, undocumented labor," Napolitano wrote in a letter to lawmakers.

The law should have provided exceptions for hospitals, nursing homes and power plants to prevent them from closing as a result of violations, Napolitano said.

It also lacks an anti-discrimination clause to ensure fair enforcement, and its overly broad punishments could lead to the closure of multiple locations of a business based on a violation at a single location, Napolitano said.

Advocates for tougher border enforcement said state punishments were needed becausident of the Arizona Contractors Association, said the state is trying to turn employers into de facto immigration agents and that the new law could have adverse effects on certain businesses, such as car washes and farming operations.

"If it remains in effect (a year from now), then the economic engines of Arizona will come to a slow grind," Jones said.

Last year, Napolitano vetoed an immigration bill that included employer sanctions. She said it would have given amnesty to employers because businesses that heed warnings to stop illegal hirings could have continued operating as if nothing happened.

As the Legislature was crafting this year's employer sanctions bill, advocates for tougher immigration enforcement began an effort to bring a stricter employer sanctions proposal to voters next year.

Under the proposed ballot measure, first-time violators would face the permanent revocation of their business licenses.

Pearce, a leader in the effort to bring such a measure to the ballot, said he and other supporters would likely continue to push as a way to head off attempts at weakening the new law.
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Step number one in our deportation through attrition goal. I just hope this isn't another law that will be pushed aside by the corporate elite when it's convienient.
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Old 07-03-2007, 05:05 PM
 
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I saw this on the news. The governor signed the bill only because it passed with enough votes to override her veto.
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Old 07-03-2007, 05:29 PM
 
Location: SW Kansas
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Advocates for tougher border enforcement said state punishments were needed becausident of the Arizona Contractors Association, said the state is trying to turn employers into de facto immigration agents and that the new law could have adverse effects on certain businesses, such as car washes and farming operations.
It's not that big of a deal to do checks on people, we do it at the hospital all the time.

I'm glad to see this bill pass. Now I better get Kansas to do the same thing or we're going to get all of OK's and AZ's illegals
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Old 07-03-2007, 05:40 PM
 
Location: Debary, Florida
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Good for Arizona is all I have to say...oh and MORE states should be doing the same thing.

FOR every citizen who agrees, we should each make it our goal to refuse to do business with anyone who hires illegal aliens. AND be vocal about it.

Don't support what you SAY you don't believe in.
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Old 07-03-2007, 06:11 PM
 
Location: Florida
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Good for Arizona is all I have to say...oh and MORE states should be doing the same thing.

FOR every citizen who agrees, we should each make it our goal to refuse to do business with anyone who hires illegal aliens. AND be vocal about it.

Don't support what you SAY you don't believe in.
Do not forget to write,call or fax our own Governors too!
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Old 07-03-2007, 06:52 PM
 
Location: San Diego North County
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I saw this on the news. The governor signed the bill only because it passed with enough votes to override her veto.
Yep, Nappy Janet is definitely no friend of the pro-LEGAL immigration movement. She's another defiantly open borders politician who was afraid that her own legislature was about to hand her her head on this one.
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Old 07-04-2007, 08:20 PM
 
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we need to push local authorities to take similar actions.
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Old 07-05-2007, 12:08 PM
 
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AZ is off to a good start but how are they going to replace those workers? They still have a bottle neck for skilled workers, but of course most illegals are not skilled workers. Example I am a licensed electrician. for me to work in states like TX I need a state license. However TX does not recognize my license from OH, WV, VA, and NC so I will have to pay money which is no problem then take an exam and in 6 months once all the paper work clears I can take it, But I have to be in TX to take that exam. Coming from PA that would be hard. Then what if I fail that exam I have to wait another 3 months to retake it. Some states need to research actions like this before they get all fired up and go buck wild.
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Old 07-05-2007, 01:13 PM
 
Location: Oxygen Ln. AZ
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I doubt that Arizona and other states would have difficulty replacing the workers. There are plenty of displaced workers from LA that still need work along with a hugely bloated welfare roll of folks that could work in kitchens, clean hotel rooms, pick fruit work as landscapers etc. You would be surprised what Americans can do when faced with issues like these. We have a large mass of soon to retire Baby Boomers that will not have enough money to fully retire on. I am sure they will be in line for some of the service jobs. And please, dont go into a "quality of work" debate. I live in one of the tract houses that they spit up. I think it would be nice to import some Danish carpenters for a change.
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Old 07-05-2007, 02:13 PM
 
Location: VA
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Just having a new law on the books about illegal immigration will not help unless the Governor actually enforces the law. She will not and it will be ignored just like the federal laws regarding immigration.
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