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Old 10-28-2010, 06:28 PM
 
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Colorado Supreme Court: Use of SSN not impersonation
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October 28, 2010 11:47 AM
THE ASSOCIATED PRESS
DENVER — The Colorado Supreme Court has ruled that a man who used a stranger's Social Security number in applying for a car loan didn't commit criminal impersonation.

The Denver Post reported that the court threw out Felix Montes-Rodriguez's 2006 conviction in a 4-3 decision.

Montes-Rodriguez used his own address, birth date and place of employment to apply for a loan, but used a woman's Social Security number that he had been using for work. His immigration status isn't known.

A majority of justices ruled that with so much identifying information on his application, he didn't assume a false identity.

Prosecutors say the decision has little impact because new laws have stiffened penalties for unauthorized uses of Social Security numbers.
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Old 10-28-2010, 07:22 PM
 
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That's crazy. And how do they know he was using his "own name?" I wonder how that woman feels, knowing that the person who used her social security number that is pretty much and basically rightfully hers, and got away with it. They might as well just make SSN unimportant and meaningless. I've known of people whose credit was screwed up because someone was using thier SSN and no matter how hard they tried, it took forever and tons of money to clear it up or it never got cleared up. It is a hassle trying to clear up identity theft.
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Old 10-28-2010, 09:46 PM
 
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This is preposterous!!!!!!

Sounds to me like they want to "Create Jobs" for lawyers of those that are being cheated. We are being undermined by our own court system.

It's blatantly obvious he's illegal or why would he not use his OWN SS number. Would a citizen get by with this? Do we have two sets of laws now?
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Old 10-29-2010, 07:43 AM
 
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Because of these types of decisions, there is a huge movement under way in Colorado to vote them out of office 11/2. I hope this latest decision will encourage Colorado to vote all judges off the bench. I used to vote to retain the judges automatically, needless to say, that has ended.
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Old 10-29-2010, 07:47 AM
 
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That HAS to be a Liberal judge defending the use of stolen SS cards by illegals. Colorado has sanctuary cities. That judge needs to go to jail himslef.
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Old 10-29-2010, 09:11 AM
 
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The SCOTUS is responsible for this BS, and the rampant “borrowing” of SSNs by illegals. According to their absurd ruling, illegals cannot be charged with SSN ID theft unless they “knowingly” use a SSN assigned to a “real” person. The fact that they are “knowingly” committing fraud, and ruining the lives of their victims, is obviously irrelevant.

However, let’s not forget, illegals never use a fake or stolen SSN for nefarious purposes. Only citizens can be guilty of that. They’re only trying to work; they aren’t trying to harm anyone.
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Old 10-29-2010, 10:43 AM
 
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The SCOTUS is responsible for this BS, and the rampant “borrowing” of SSNs by illegals. According to their absurd ruling, illegals cannot be charged with SSN ID theft unless they “knowingly” use a SSN assigned to a “real” person. The fact that they are “knowingly” committing fraud, and ruining the lives of their victims, is obviously irrelevant.

However, let’s not forget, illegals never use a fake or stolen SSN for nefarious purposes. Only citizens can be guilty of that. They’re only trying to work; they aren’t trying to harm anyone.
Good try, but that is not the whole ruling and/or an incomplete/incorrect intrepretation of the US Supreme Court's ruling[whichever was your intention].
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Old 10-29-2010, 10:48 AM
 
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That's crazy. And how do they know he was using his "own name?" I wonder how that woman feels, knowing that the person who used her social security number that is pretty much and basically rightfully hers, and got away with it. They might as well just make SSN unimportant and meaningless. I've known of people whose credit was screwed up because someone was using thier SSN and no matter how hard they tried, it took forever and tons of money to clear it up or it never got cleared up. It is a hassle trying to clear up identity theft.
The question before the Colorado Supreme Court was not if the person mis used someone's elses [the woman's]SSN...It was if the Person assumed the woman's identity.

The CSC did not rule that it was legal to use someone else's SSN, The Court ruled using someone else's SSN is not assuming that person's Identity[IN THIS CASE].
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Old 10-29-2010, 10:50 AM
 
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Good try, but that is not the whole ruling and/or an incomplete/incorrect intrepretation of the US Supreme Court's ruling[whichever was your intention].
Identity theft and using stolen identification is a felony crime - if Americans do it, but when illegals do it, they're not prosecuted and are rewarded with promises of quick easy citizenship, "family reunification", and a plush USA retirement on social security checks.

Criminals using stolen social security numbers should spend time in prison and then be deported.
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Old 10-29-2010, 11:37 AM
 
Location: Maryland
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Good try, but that is not the whole ruling and/or an incomplete/incorrect intrepretation of the US Supreme Court's ruling[whichever was your intention].
Then, why don’t you prove it? Quote the ruling, and highlight the sections that refute my post, and I will graciously retract my comments.
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