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Old 11-02-2010, 10:25 AM
 
Location: Maryland
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Does this make sense? If they canít arrest illegals, what is the purpose of authorizing police to demand documents? That would be as ridiculous as allowing police to stop suspected drunk drivers, but prohibiting drunks from being arrested.

Are they going to issue tickets to illegals for being in the state illegally?

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A three-judge panel of the Ninth U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals indicated that it would authorize police to demand papers from those they reasonably suspected of being in the country illegally, but would not allow authorities to arrest or prosecute them under state law.

That would still allow suspects to be referred to U.S. authorities for deportation, however.
Court signals backing for Arizona immigration law
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Old 11-02-2010, 10:29 AM
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Location: NC/SC Border Patrol
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They can keep a list of the names that they gave to the Federal Government and then if they are stopped again and are still here the evidence of our corrupt Federal Government would stick out like a sore thumb. Better than nothing. Time for the Federal Government to get busy doing their job.

Here in North Carolina a citizen group is starting to keep a list of those that have committed many crimes and are still out on the street and they are beginning to ask why when a person has committed so much crime that they are still free to be doing it. It really looks bad for the state court system when someone has a list of crimes a mile long was still out on the street and enabled to commit another crime. Usually it seems to me that they start out by drugs or stealing cars and end up killing someone down the road. If our courts had done their job, the murder would never have happened.

Now they are wanting to take the choice of who is a judge out of the hands of those of us who actually care about this situation. I say let the citizens do the choosing of the judges and eventually we will weed out the "old boy" system that is allowing so much crime to happen. Nanny government does not like having to answer to the public.
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Old 11-02-2010, 10:33 AM
 
Location: Out in the Badlands
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Ninth U.S. Circus Court of Appeals is just THAT!
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Old 11-02-2010, 10:43 AM
 
Location: Maryland
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They can keep a list of the names that they gave to the Federal Government and then if they are stopped again and are still here the evidence of our corrupt Federal Government would stick out like a sore thumb. Better than nothing. Time for the Federal Government to get busy doing their job.

Here in North Carolina a citizen group is starting to keep a list of those that have committed many crimes and are still out on the street and they are beginning to ask why when a person has committed so much crime that they are still free to be doing it. It really looks bad for the state court system when someone has a list of crimes a mile long was still out on the street and enabled to commit another crime. Usually it seems to me that they start out by drugs or stealing cars and end up killing someone down the road. If our courts had done their job, the murder would never have happened.
Unfortunately, they use a thousand aliases. The Arizona police would never be able to keep track of them.

Clearly, the Feds have no intentions of enforcing our laws. I canít count the number of articles Iíve read in which an illegal had been arrested numerous times for various crimes, and had been released to later commit rape or murder.

In Montgomery County, MD, police canít report an illegal to ICE unless they have committed a violent crime. Drug dealers, burglars, etc. are given a free pass. After all, the Feds are only interested in illegals who pose a threat to the community.
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Old 11-02-2010, 01:28 PM
 
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It's interesting that they are easing up on the most controversial part of the bill. Could it be a setup so they can find one person that they can use to cry racial profiling?
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Old 11-02-2010, 01:55 PM
 
Location: Phoenix,Arizona
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It's interesting that they are easing up on the most controversial part of the bill. Could it be a setup so they can find one person that they can use to cry racial profiling?

YOU got that right

It's time for the judges to enforce the laws we already have
not 'Interrupt' them and they must be held accountable !
What is it about ILLEGAL that they don't understand AND
being the JOB of the Federal Government to enforce but
chooses not to do so
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Old 11-03-2010, 07:53 AM
 
Location: San Diego
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This might be ok so long as they have Federal agents working with them like Escondido. They simply get on the horn and they show up with the illegal wagon and haul them off.
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Old 11-03-2010, 10:55 AM
 
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They can keep a list of the names that they gave to the Federal Government and then if they are stopped again and are still here the evidence of our corrupt Federal Government would stick out like a sore thumb. Better than nothing. Time for the Federal Government to get busy doing their job.

Here in North Carolina a citizen group is starting to keep a list of those that have committed many crimes and are still out on the street and they are beginning to ask why when a person has committed so much crime that they are still free to be doing it. It really looks bad for the state court system when someone has a list of crimes a mile long was still out on the street and enabled to commit another crime. Usually it seems to me that they start out by drugs or stealing cars and end up killing someone down the road. If our courts had done their job, the murder would never have happened.

Now they are wanting to take the choice of who is a judge out of the hands of those of us who actually care about this situation. I say let the citizens do the choosing of the judges and eventually we will weed out the "old boy" system that is allowing so much crime to happen. Nanny government does not like having to answer to the public.

I am glad they are doing something there, but they committed a crime when they entered this country illegally.
There should be a list for that
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Old 11-03-2010, 11:01 AM
 
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Unfortunately, they use a thousand aliases. The Arizona police would never be able to keep track of them.

Clearly, the Feds have no intentions of enforcing our laws. I canít count the number of articles Iíve read in which an illegal had been arrested numerous times for various crimes, and had been released to later commit rape or murder.

In Montgomery County, MD, police canít report an illegal to ICE unless they have committed a violent crime. Drug dealers, burglars, etc. are given a free pass. After all, the Feds are only interested in illegals who pose a threat to the community.
Many of the Politicians and elected officials don't represent America if America is a nation of laws.

They represent a foreign force that believes the law does not Apply to the people they represent.
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Old 11-03-2010, 10:59 PM
 
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Many of the Politicians and elected officials don't represent America if America is a nation of laws.

They represent a foreign force that believes the law does not Apply to the people they represent.
AND, US laws that apply to American citizens don't apply to the high and mighty US politicians either.......

Definition of a politician:

poly = many
tic = blood sucker
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