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Old 11-10-2010, 05:36 PM
 
Location: SouthCentral Texas
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What? Once again, you post some silly response and again unrelated to what a person said. And how are you going to say a worker and a "mom of three kids" who is illegally here are different?
you're exactly right. another silly response to another silly topic...if anyone thinks its important to immigration reform what aliens are "called" were in real trouble.
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Old 11-10-2010, 06:12 PM
 
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you're exactly right. another silly response to another silly topic...if anyone thinks its important to immigration reform what aliens are "called" were in real trouble.
We don't need immigration "reform" what we need is immigration enforcement and yes it is important to call a spade a spade.
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Old 11-11-2010, 08:07 AM
 
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Footnote: What's the difference between 'illegal immigrant' and 'undocumented worker'?

The American Civil Liberties Union issued a brief on the issue in February and said the act of being present in the U.S. in violation of immigration laws is not, standing alone, a crime. "Unauthorized presence in the U.S. is criminally punishable only if it occurs after an individual was previously formally removed from the U.S. and then returned without permission," it said.

Many undocumented immigrants enter the U.S. legally but overstay their visas, which is a civil violation, not a crime, the ACLU said. That's the basis for the argument used by local groups such as Latinos United for Change and Advancement, which strongly opposes use of "illegal immigrant" and prefers "undocumented worker."

The Associated Press stylebook, which guides usage at most U.S. newspapers, including this one, says "illegal immigrant" is preferred over "undocumented worker." News organizations have defended the usage over the years, saying people who break civil laws still are acting illegally and that "undocumented worker" makes sense only in a story addressing employment.
David Minthorn, deputy standards editor for the AP in New York, said "illegal immigrant" is accurate and neutral for news stories. An immigrant is someone who comes into a country to settle, and illegal means a violation of the law, he said.

"Alternatives like 'undocumented worker,' 'illegal alien' or 'illegals' lack precision or may have negative connotations," he said.
The State Journal follows AP style and uses "illegal immigrant."
"Alien" is hardly negative. These people aren't immigrants and those who break every law to get here illegally and stay here illegally are an insult to real immigrants who respect this country and it's laws and are working to become a real part of it.

Many illegals aren't here to work - all you have to do is peek inside a welfare office and see how many illegals have a baby shortly after arriving, or like the other day, gave birth on the bridge coming over - just made it to the USA side of course.
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Old 11-11-2010, 08:12 AM
 
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Just call them law breaking foreigners. They rarely are breaking only the law of stepping foot over here illegally or overstaying a visa. A great number of them are committing felony document fraud and ID theft. Many are tax evaders, failing to report their under-the-table incomes or pay into social security while working as "independent contractors". Many are involved in the narco-trafficking trades and other highly illegal occupations.

They should be charged with all the crimes they commit. If they simply overstay a visa but didn't take a job - that's one crime. If they overstay a visa and took a job - that's two crimes. If they added in felony document fraud - then add that to the list.

If they come here to be welfare slackers, they are worse types of people than the criminals.
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Old 11-11-2010, 08:55 PM
 
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Just call them law breaking foreigners. They rarely are breaking only the law of stepping foot over here illegally or overstaying a visa. A great number of them are committing felony document fraud and ID theft. Many are tax evaders, failing to report their under-the-table incomes or pay into social security while working as "independent contractors". Many are involved in the narco-trafficking trades and other highly illegal occupations.

They should be charged with all the crimes they commit. If they simply overstay a visa but didn't take a job - that's one crime. If they overstay a visa and took a job - that's two crimes. If they added in felony document fraud - then add that to the list.

If they come here to be welfare slackers, they are worse types of people than the criminals.
A welfare illegal alien is worse than a raping murdering illegal alien?
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Old 11-14-2010, 08:49 AM
 
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I believe in this country, one is innocent until proven guilty. Thus only those "undocumented workers" who have been tried and convicted can be considered "illegal aliens." It's all about the Constitution, not pro-amnesty, or PC.
If they are here illegally, than they have in fact broken the law. Whether they are convicted or not does not change that fact.
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