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Old 11-16-2010, 05:43 PM
 
Location: Maryland
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President Obama met privately in the Oval Office Tuesday with leaders of the Congressional Hispanic Caucus to discuss immigration reform, and aides say his hope that Congress will approve the DREAM Act during the lame duck session.

One lawmaker at the meeting says the President told them he is still committed to comprehensive reform, but asked that they give him the DREAM Act as a down payment.
President Obama, Hispanic Caucus Members Talk Dream Act - FoxNews.com


Down payment my a**.
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Old 11-16-2010, 06:46 PM
 
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Obama and company are running scared. They just took a beating and yet another at the summet. Obama knows that his party has been tagged and has little interest in making their situation worse. Lip service at its best from Obama's admin.
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Old 11-16-2010, 07:06 PM
 
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Obama and company are running scared. They just took a beating and yet another at the summet. Obama knows that his party has been tagged and has little interest in making their situation worse. Lip service at its best from Obama's admin.
Exactly. They received a resounding message from the midterm elections, and Harry Reid would have been defeated if not for illegals voting. It would be political suicide to grant amnesty to untold millions of illegals in the midst of our economic crisis and record unemployment. Citizens are concerned about jobs and feeding their families, not rewarding illegals for ignoring our laws.

They’re going through the motions to placate their Hispanic constituency. In the meantime, we must still contact members of Congress to remind them that DREAMies cannot remove them from office, but we can. The delusional DREAMies are so ecstatic they can hardly contain themselves. They even have a thread titled, “When Dream Act Passes, Will You Be Going Through a Lawyer or Yourself?”
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Old 11-16-2010, 07:09 PM
 
Location: Reality
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If Obama and the Democrats figure out a closed door, under the table way to pass the Dream Act they might as well say goodbye to Washington DC for the next 50 years.
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Old 11-16-2010, 09:40 PM
 
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I'm still waiting to hear what is so broken about our immigration system. And how it helps the millions of undocumented people here if we "reform" it. The truth is that most of those people who came here illegally and that are still here are impoverished and uneducated. They have nothing at the moment or when they came to add to the country other than their manual labor hands and service positions. It is not beneficial to the country to take them in as they are now. Sure, you can say, "Educate them so they can contribute to the workforce," but who is to say they are actually going to get a job here so easily? All of those people that they want legalize aren't going to live the "American Dream" as the article says, they are going to be another addition to poverty. Is that really what is healthy for the country? Especially when they came in from another country's poverty?
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Old 11-16-2010, 10:11 PM
 
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I'm still waiting to hear what is so broken about our immigration system. And how it helps the millions of undocumented people here if we "reform" it. The truth is that most of those people who came here illegally and that are still here are impoverished and uneducated. They have nothing at the moment or when they came to add to the country other than their manual labor hands and service positions. It is not beneficial to the country to take them in as they are now. Sure, you can say, "Educate them so they can contribute to the workforce," but who is to say they are actually going to get a job here so easily? All of those people that they want legalize aren't going to live the "American Dream" as the article says, they are going to be another addition to poverty. Is that really what is healthy for the country? Especially when they came in from another country's poverty?
Exactly.

In the meantime we have millions of Americans with college degrees who can't get jobs right now. How is adding people going to help this country? Shame on the caucus. Identity politics is not a pretty sight.

Enough already. Let Mexicans go fix up their own country and leave ours alone. If their children want American citizenship let them apply for it legally like other would be immigrants. American citizenship is not yours for the taking just because you and your offspring believe yourself entitled to it as a reward for breaking our laws.

Third world America here we come!
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Old 11-16-2010, 11:12 PM
 
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Exactly.

In the meantime we have millions of Americans with college degrees who can't get jobs right now. How is adding people going to help this country? Shame on the caucus. Identity politics is not a pretty sight.

Enough already. Let Mexicans go fix up their own country and leave ours alone. If their children want American citizenship let them apply for it legally like other would be immigrants. American citizenship is not yours for the taking just because you and your offspring believe yourself entitled to it as a reward for breaking our laws.

Third world America here we come!
Getting people and politicians to realize that is the hard part. I really think that the reason why so many politicians are entertaining these ideas is because they don't know how else to deal with illegal immigrants who are here, but they haven't even taken a serious look at it. Well, I say that they need to THINK harder and longer about things before making these disasterous decisions. It's all about political correctness, relations with Mexico, pro-illegal immigration influence and the fears in Washington of some of the politicians. What is more important? Being nice to all these illegal immigrants or protecting US laws and the future for those who are legally here?

Like I said, I'm STILL waiting to hear from these people about what needs to be reformed in the immigration realm AND how that relates to and applies to illegal immigrants. No one who promotes "immigration reform" has even gotten away from simply dropping that phrase and explaining just what they mean or what they plan on doing.

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That's all you see and hear. But it's just something they say to buy them time and to sound as if it is everyone else's fault that there a millions of uneducated and impoverished illegal immigrants here who lied their way in or to stay here. It's not immigration reform, it's "Help illegal Mexicans, Guatemalans, and the other leading groups of Hispanic illegal immigrants." They need to stop pretending that there is something wrong with immigration when it comes to the millions of illegal immigrants. They don't care about the Haitians, Chinese, Africans or other groups that struggle to come here and get turned away by boats while illegal immigrants can just walk in on the Southern border.
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Old 11-17-2010, 08:37 AM
 
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Excellent post, So Edible.
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