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Old 11-17-2010, 08:43 PM
 
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You aren't just putting an illegal through college; you are investing in the future of California. Good luck.
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Old 11-17-2010, 08:53 PM
 
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You aren't just putting an illegal through college; you are investing in the future of California. Good luck.
Yup people in CA are strange. Here is a recently completed school in LA, cost eh about 578 million.

When a public school complex costs $578 million, have we lost our minds? Give me a state-of-the-art teacher over a state-of-the-art building. | Get Schooled

Do you people in CA understand how to budget, or spend their money wisely? Your legislature is like a bunch of drunk sailors.

Instead of 578 Million on ONE school how about building 20 schools for 25 million a piece.

You just don't get it
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Old 11-17-2010, 09:01 PM
 
Location: NW Las Vegas - Lone Mountain
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Yup people in CA are strange. Here is a recently completed school in LA, cost eh about 578 million.

When a public school complex costs $578 million, have we lost our minds? Give me a state-of-the-art teacher over a state-of-the-art building. | Get Schooled

Do you people in CA understand how to budget, or spend their money wisely? Your legislature is like a bunch of drunk sailors.

Instead of 578 Million on ONE school how about building 20 schools for 25 million a piece.

You just don't get it
Utterly off topic. Classical right winger. Gets beat up and shown to not understand change the subject.

Start a new thread. Don't try to hide your utter loss here.
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Old 11-17-2010, 09:43 PM
 
Location: Sacramento
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I already closed one thread on this topic, and I'm not above closing this one too.

Stay on the topic, or...
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Old 11-17-2010, 09:52 PM
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Location: Denver
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Go read the newspaper, see if you can figure out the difference between instate tuition and free tuition.
It seems the OP is between greatly misinformed and uninformed.
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Old 11-17-2010, 11:53 PM
 
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Only if you're one of those people who habitually keeps a couple of race cards up his sleeve to play at every opportunity. I never mentioned race or legal status -- I only mentioned RESEARCH-BASED correlations between educational attainment and crime. Here is one of many such studies for your perusal.
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You do realize that the study you cited was published in 1956 and that social norms have changed dramatically in the last 65 years?
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Old 11-18-2010, 12:15 AM
 
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You guys are in massive debt. They just INCREASED tuition 8% for students?

Why ON EARTH are you paying for illegals to go to school?

Can I get a democrats perspective on why this is a good idea, I already understand the Republican minority perspective.

IMO it makes no sense
We are *already* paying for the illegal immigrants' education, just not at the college level. The Pew Hispanic Center reported that from kindergarten to 12th grade, the illegal immigrants make up at least 10% of the student enrollment. The Washington D.C. based Center of Immigration Study confirmed it to be at 13% and cost the Californian taxpayers at least 9 billion dollars a year to provide education for the illegals.

Estimating The Costs of illegal immigration - Sacramento News - Local and Breaking Sacramento News | Sacramento Bee (http://www.sacbee.com/2010/11/16/3191413/estimating-the-costs-of-illegal.html - broken link)
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Old 11-18-2010, 12:29 AM
 
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MOD CUT
It's simple: the more educated our populace is, the better off we are as a state and as an economy. If we don't support community colleges and give poor first- or second-generation immigrants a chance to become good, contributing members of society, then they simply won't. They will resort to crime and then we will pay even more to deport them or keep them in prison.
This argument has no merit and it is not so simple.

The most likely scenario is that the illegal immigrants that have gone off to college and graduated with a diploma and secured a good paying job -- would be that their contribution in taxes would be slightly above zero, paying their fair share of tax money back to the documented taxpayers for all those years they provided the larger bulk of funding for the illegal's education.


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But, MOD CUT will say, if we give them the carrot of opportunity, then they will come in greater numbers. Well, I say to you, welcome to America. That's exactly why your ancestors came here in the first place. And by saying "I can have opportunities, but they can't," you are, in fact, being anti-American and seeking to strip this great country of the finest quality it has.

That is called LEGAL immigration.
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Old 11-18-2010, 02:24 AM
 
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In any event, we have a glut of white-collar professionals at the moment and for the foreseeable future. Subsidizing the education of persons not legally entitled to be here only increases the magnet effect. There will not be work for them when they graduate.

Experts say good-paying, white-collar jobs aren
It seems that a good many of our immigrants start their own companies rather than trying to find jobs.
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Old 11-18-2010, 02:30 AM
 
Location: SW MO
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It seems that a good many of our immigrants start their own companies rather than trying to find jobs.
Ah! California right-speak. They're not just immigrants. They're YOUR immigrants. Kinda like pets, huh?
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