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Old 12-07-2010, 05:52 PM
 
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BTW, what does an native-born American citizen killing people in Mexico have to do with illegal immigration? We don't know for certain exactly what the status of his parents is, and nonetheless, the status of his parents doesn't change his status (for better or worse).

If anything, he was in Mexico illegally.
If he is of Mexican ancestry through his parents regardless that he was born here he is considered a Mexican national also via dual citizenship.
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Old 12-07-2010, 07:04 PM
 
Location: Arvada, CO
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If he is of Mexican ancestry through his parents regardless that he was born here he is considered a Mexican national also via dual citizenship.
Again, something we don't know for sure and also a moot point considering in no way is he an illegal.
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Old 12-08-2010, 07:51 AM
 
Location: San Diego
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BTW, what does an native-born American citizen killing people in Mexico have to do with illegal immigration? We don't know for certain exactly what the status of his parents is, and nonetheless, the status of his parents doesn't change his status (for better or worse).

If anything, he was in Mexico illegally.
Are you defending this dirt bag, cold blooded killer? Everything we've read points to at least one of his parents coming here illegally, that he has Mexican National siblings. I don't need an official govt sticker saying he's an anchor to give this savage any leeway. That's for the courts to figure out.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20101208/ap_on_re_la_am_ca/lt_drug_war_mexico_hit_boy_suspect (broken link)
When he was still a baby, Edgar's father brought the boy with five siblings from San Diego back to Jiutepec, an industrial suburb of Cuernavaca, to live Solis, the father's mother. The relative didn't say when she died.

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Old 12-08-2010, 08:26 AM
 
Location: Arvada, CO
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Are you defending this dirt bag, cold blooded killer? Everything we've read points to at least one of his parents coming here illegally, that he has Mexican National siblings. I don't need an official govt sticker saying he's an anchor to give this savage any leeway. That's for the courts to figure out.

US officials met with alleged boy hitman in Mexico - Yahoo! News (http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20101208/ap_on_re_la_am_ca/lt_drug_war_mexico_hit_boy_suspect - broken link)
When he was still a baby, Edgar's father brought the boy with five siblings from San Diego back to Jiutepec, an industrial suburb of Cuernavaca, to live Solis, the father's mother. The relative didn't say when she died.
Where do you get that I'm defending him from discussing his legal status? I hope he receives the maximum punishment under the law, regardless of where he's from/was born/etc.

The fact that his parents and siblings are Mexican nationals doesn't mean he can't somehow be an American citizen by law. The fact that San Diego County can't find a birth record is a promising sign that he is not an American.
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Old 12-08-2010, 08:34 AM
 
Location: San Diego
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Where do you get that I'm defending him from discussing his legal status? I hope he receives the maximum punishment under the law, regardless of where he's from/was born/etc.

The fact that his parents and siblings are Mexican nationals doesn't mean he can't somehow be an American citizen by law. The fact that San Diego County can't find a birth record is a promising sign that he is not an American.
You aren't getting it. If he has Mexican siblings, is claiming to be American (likely) is a pretty good story that his Parent(s) came here illegally and had a child via the anchor baby loophole called the 14th. This is nothing new as this criminal act has been going on for far too long.


Could his Dad have dual Citizenship? Yes, is it likely? Based on history he&& no!
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Old 12-08-2010, 09:13 AM
 
Location: Arvada, CO
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You aren't getting it. If he has Mexican siblings, is claiming to be American (likely) is a pretty good story that his Parent(s) came here illegally and had a child via the anchor baby loophole called the 14th. This is nothing new as this criminal act has been going on for far too long.


Could his Dad have dual Citizenship? Yes, is it likely? Based on history he&& no!
If having anchor babies is a criminal act, then why aren't parents being prosecuted? That would get some results, no?
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Old 12-08-2010, 12:55 PM
 
Location: San Diego
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If having anchor babies is a criminal act, then why aren't parents being prosecuted? That would get some results, no?
Overturning the Constitution is very difficult. Hopefully it will be accomplished. IN the meantime we'll have to deal with these parasite criminals with whatever means we have. More AZ style legislation would be a start or better yet, treat these people at the Hospital then deport them, along with their new anchor.
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Old 12-08-2010, 08:04 PM
 
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Are you defending this dirt bag, cold blooded killer? Everything we've read points to at least one of his parents coming here illegally, that he has Mexican National siblings. I don't need an official govt sticker saying he's an anchor to give this savage any leeway. That's for the courts to figure out.

US officials met with alleged boy hitman in Mexico - Yahoo! News (http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20101208/ap_on_re_la_am_ca/lt_drug_war_mexico_hit_boy_suspect - broken link)
When he was still a baby, Edgar's father brought the boy with five siblings from San Diego back to Jiutepec, an industrial suburb of Cuernavaca, to live Solis, the father's mother. The relative didn't say when she died.
It seems the mother isn't dead - and she at least is here illegally, so yeah, the kid is an anchor baby..........

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SAN DIEGO - The mother of an alleged 14-year-old assassin in Mexico has been charged in San Diego with entering the United States illegally.

A federal complaint filed Wednesday says Border Patrol agents arrested Yolanda Lugo Jimenez on Monday night at her home in San Diego's Logan Heights neighborhood. Agents say she admitted she is a Mexican citizen and not allowed to be in the United States.

San Diego Mother Arrested; Her 14-Year-Old is Suspected of Drug Cartel Murders in Mexico - San Diego 6 (http://www.sandiego6.com/news/local/story/San-Diego-Mother-Arrested-Her-14-Year-Old-is/oa7_qf_Yn0GaBkhK6Ch7iQ.cspx?rss=800 - broken link)
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Old 12-08-2010, 11:36 PM
 
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If having anchor babies is a criminal act, then why aren't parents being prosecuted? That would get some results, no?
Good question. The parents were most likely here illegally - in fact I should hope our standards for legal immigrants have not dropped so drastically that they were brought in legally.

You really have to wonder what kind of parents he had that he was over in Mexico wandering about and cutting off peoples' heads since he was 11 years old and the parents were apparently fine with that. Not just him but their daughters were busy hooking up corpses and dumping headless corpses while the parents lived it up in the USA.

So much for the famous family values.
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Old 12-08-2010, 11:39 PM
 
Location: Arvada, CO
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Good question. The parents were most likely here illegally - in fact I should hope our standards for legal immigrants have not dropped so drastically that they were brought in legally.

You really have to wonder what kind of parents he had that he was over in Mexico wandering about and cutting off peoples' heads since he was 11 years old and the parents were apparently fine with that. Not just him but their daughters were busy hooking up corpses and dumping headless corpses while the parents lived it up in the USA.

So much for the famous family values.
Did the father live in the USA? I thought only the mother did (on a permanent basis).
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