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Old 12-08-2010, 10:06 PM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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thanks for posting that.

FYI..Ron Paul voted NO.
I follow his votes..he's a straight up kind of guy.
Too bad people didn't see that when they had the chance back in 2008.
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Old 12-08-2010, 10:09 PM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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Some people are claiming that the Dream Act is basically giving amnesty to all illegals and that everyone in Mexico will be calling the U.S. home shortly. I disagree. It says in the bill that it's only for people who entered under the age of 16 and who then go on to graduate from college or serve in the military and do not have criminal records. Not every illegal is a bad person; the ones who are going to college are obviously trying to better themselves.
Once they hit 21 they can petition for their parents to become citizens.
The parents become eligible immediately.

Yeah..it can be considered a backdoor'ish type of amnesty.
Not blanket like Reagan did but a path nevertheless.
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Old 12-08-2010, 10:53 PM
 
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List of sovereign states and dependent territories by population density - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

We are 178th on the list of population density.

I think we've got room.
We may have lots of room to build on, but economically speaking, NO VACANCIES. Besides, isn't always your environazi pals that keep crying we are overbuilding in the U.S. and destroying many natural habitats in the process?

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Then once they are 21 they can petition for citizenship for their parents.
The parents do not need to wait, they are eligible immediately.
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Once they hit 21 they can petition for their parents to become citizens.
The parents become eligible immediately.

Yeah..it can be considered a backdoor'ish type of amnesty.
Not blanket like Reagan did but a path nevertheless.
And thus, the chain migration system continues. These liberals think it's going to stop with the kids? No way. They can sponsor their parents, and those parents can sponsor their siblings and those siblings can sponsor their kids, and round and round we go. And that's how you get the phenomenon of a migrating village
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Old 12-08-2010, 10:55 PM
 
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It's been that way since about 1492. Why bother worrying about it now?

Conservative estimates report approx. 12 million illegal immigrants are in the United States


if you ask a Native American,

....that number is more like 300 million
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Old 12-08-2010, 10:59 PM
 
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I would support the Dream Act if it had mandatory military enlistment.

The two years of college is a huge loop hole. Any toolchest can enroll at some scummy junior college or online school like the University of Phoenix for two years. It's much harder having to enlist and serve in the U.S. military.

The Dream Act should be ammended and eliminate the college requirement and demand 4 years of military service.

It's a no-brainer. They have the choice of enlisting in the military and possibly dying overseas or enrolling in an online degree for 2 years or paying a few thousand a year to enroll in junior college and major in graphic design. What would you do? hmmm Give me a break. This is why the government shouldn't make decisions. It's not like they are demanding a 4 years college degree in electrical engineering.
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Old 12-08-2010, 11:11 PM
 
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I would support the Dream Act if it had mandatory military enlistment.

The two years of college is a huge loop hole. Any toolchest can enroll at some scummy junior college or online school like the University of Phoenix for two years. It's much harder having to enlist and serve in the U.S. military.

The Dream Act should be ammended and eliminate the college requirement and demand 4 years of military service.

It's a no-brainer. They have the choice of enlisting in the military and possibly dying overseas or enrolling in an online degree for 2 years or paying a few thousand a year to enroll in junior college and major in graphic design. What would you do? hmmm Give me a break. This is why the government shouldn't make decisions. It's not like they are demanding a 4 years college degree in electrical engineering.
Exactly. And the way that unemployment is now, where a good portion of Americans are out of work, just imagine if we ALSO have to foot the bill for illegals' kids to go to college, and then those kids competing w/ Americans for what few jobs there are! Bad enough that American high school & college kids can't work at the local fast-food joints anymore due to all the employers hiring foreigners at dirt-cheap labor.
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Old 12-08-2010, 11:17 PM
 
Location: SARASOTA, FLORIDA
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Amazing how many people just put their name on allowing criminal invaders from Mexico to run free in America.

People need to look how many crimes the Mexican illegal invaders commit on US citizens.

There are not 12 million illegals in America, more like 35-40 million.

Go home and come back when you can do it legally.

If you pass the massive drug, disease and criminal checks then we can take a look at your application.

Then again you would have a criminal record for illegally trespassing on our land.
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Old 12-08-2010, 11:24 PM
 
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Here are your options

1. Enlist in the Military for 2 years

2. Enroll in an on-line college for 2 years while you play X-box and pay someone to write papers for you

Hmmmmm....decisions....decisions
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Old 12-08-2010, 11:27 PM
 
Location: Oregon
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Oh, puleeeeze elaborate. Let's see. Babies, or young children were brought to America by their parents. They grow up here; go to school here; work here; and 'here' is the ONLY home country they know.

If they were going to harm you they would have done so already.

This is about allowing those who had no say in how they got into America, and who have lived by the laws of this country, to enter into the military or attend college, and start the path to becoming a legalized American.

Oh, and don't even pull that "they're breaking the law by being here' card BS. What? Is a toddler going to march back to the country he was born in? A 10 y/o then? A teen-ager who is culturally American?
This law allows them to get in-state tuition at universities that US CITIZENS in neighboring states can not get. Tell me why they should get benefits that US CITIZENS can not get when they are here illegally.
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Old 12-08-2010, 11:34 PM
 
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This law allows them to get in-state tuition at universities that US CITIZENS in neighboring states can not get. Tell me why they should get benefits that US CITIZENS can not get when they are here illegally.
And they don't even have to get a degree....all they have to do is 2 years! Who are the morons who came up with this piece of legislation.
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