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My eyes are wide open. I grew up in a predominantly black and Puerto Rican neighborhood in Brooklyn and still live in a predominantly minority neighborhood. I have plenty of 1st hand experience of the growing racial tension in and out of these communities. To think that there is no growing racial/ethnic undertone with illegal immigration is not being honest. I do believe that there are many frustrated Americans out there who do feel passionate about the issue and can separate the two. But that gap is getting smaller and smaller and I see it through out these forums, on tv, on the internet, in every day life, etc. My original point was not about offering an opinion about illegal immigration, that's what these forums are for, but about deep nasty sentiment that doesn't reflect the total picture and just spreads as the final word. After all, let's be honest, these illegals are not in these forums and can never really counter their point.
As I mentioned in my previous post, our current racial tension is being manufactured by pro-amnesty leaders. Their strategy is to portray illegal immigration as a “civil rights” issue similar to the plight of black Americans, when nothing could be further from the truth. Again, the mere notion is insulting.
Unfortunately, our history easily lends itself to such a devious and well-orchestrated strategy. This is not only disingenuous; it is absolutely reprehensible, because it has deliberately destroyed years of hard-fought battles by Dr. King and other civil rights champions. Rather than continuing to make strides in race relations, our country is now more divided than ever. Consequently, all who fought and died to improve race relations, sadly, did so in vain.
Realizing they have no legal or moral basis to justify illegal immigration, the peddlers and profiteers of illegal aliens have deliberately sacrificed years of racial progress for the sake of cheap, illegal labor. This is unconscionable.
Of course they can and many do. Its called fraud. ID theft and ID fraud are a common practice.
Exactly - a great number of them are using stolen social security numbers an so do collect social security benefits with them. Why else would they go through all the trouble of buying stolen ID's and SS numbers.
But for those who don't, such as those illegals who never worked at all in this country, the other way to get in on social security checks is to use their US born anchor babies who will sponsor them once they reach 18 years of age. That's what family chain migration is all about.
And now we have the Dream Act for all those who didn't get here in time to give birth, all they have to do is smuggle in their children before they reach age 16 and the sponsoring of relatives can begin a few years after.
Exactly - a great number of them are using stolen social security numbers an so do collect social security benefits with them. Why else would they go through all the trouble of buying stolen ID's and SS numbers.
But for those who don't, such as those illegals who never worked at all in this country, the other way to get in on social security checks is to use their US born anchor babies whowill sponsor themonce they reach 18 years of age. That's what family chain migration is all about.
And now we have the Dream Act for all those who didn't get here in time to give birth, all they have to do is smuggle in their children before they reach age 16 and the sponsoring of relatives can begin a few years after.
so using your time-line logic...an alien has a baby, doesnt work, waits till kid is 18[18 years] then the kid can "sponsor" the "family"[another 13 year wait on average], then collect SSI. Have a baby and 35 years later...jackpot!
or smuggle thier kid it before 16, send them to school, graduate them, send them to college or Military service for 2 years...then become a US citizen, then sponsor family member and 13 years later...Jackpot!
so using your time-line logic...an alien has a baby, doesnt work, waits till kid is 18[18 years] then the kid can "sponsor" the "family"[another 13 year wait on average], then collect SSI. Have a baby and 35 years later...jackpot!
or smuggle thier kid it before 16, send them to school, graduate them, send them to college or Military service for 2 years...then become a US citizen, then sponsor family member and 13 years later...Jackpot!
We aren't fooled by this Dream Act fiasco. This is only the first step in legalizing nearlly all illegal aliens in this country and in particular the parents of these Dreamies. Next the advocates will be screaming that it would be cruel and inhumane for these parents to be separated by their Dreamie kids if the parents are deported. Then we will get into round 2 of amnesty for the parents and it won't be years from now either. Then they will be entitled to SS and all other taxpayers benefits.
As I mentioned in my previous post, our current racial tension is being manufactured by pro-amnesty leaders. Their strategy is to portray illegal immigration as a “civil rights†issue similar to the plight of black Americans, when nothing could be further from the truth. Again, the mere notion is insulting.
Unfortunately, our history easily lends itself to such a devious and well-orchestrated strategy. This is not only disingenuous; it is absolutely reprehensible, because it has deliberately destroyed years of hard-fought battles by Dr. King and other civil rights champions. Rather than continuing to make strides in race relations, our country is now more divided than ever. Consequently, all who fought and died to improve race relations, sadly, did so in vain.
Realizing they have no legal or moral basis to justify illegal immigration, the peddlers and profiteers of illegal aliens have deliberately sacrificed years of racial progress for the sake of cheap, illegal labor. This is unconscionable.
"our current racial tension is being manufactured"...wow.
Of course they can and many do. Its called fraud. ID theft and ID fraud are a common practice.
WinterStorm is actually right. While the 'physical' number for documentation is valid, and as you say, ID fraud is being committed, the SS credit never goes to the card holder in this case but to the victim. The Illegal immigrant's payoff isn't SS benefits at 65+. It's just getting enough 'fake' documentation for the employer to look the other way so he/she can get a job.
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We aren't fooled by this Dream Act fiasco. This is only the first step in legalizing nearlly all illegal aliens in this country and in particular the parents of these Dreamies. Next the advocates will be screaming that it would be cruel and inhumane for these parents to be separated by their Dreamie kids if the parents are deported. Then we will get into round 2 of amnesty for the parents and it won't be years from now either. Then they will be entitled to SS and all other taxpayers benefits.
I'm surely not 'fooled'. Are you a parent? If so, how would you feel if you were separated from your child? just curious? what's your solution? This 'anchor' child phrase has got to stop. Blame the parents if you'd like but children are innocent, period.
What gets me about all this illegal/legal BS is, any offering of legalization is unacceptable. so why don't we call a spade a spade. If what we want is for these illegals to pay taxes, to be documented under the law, etc., why is a path to legal status not acceptable? 12MM + folks aren't just picking up and leaving, like it or not.
So why not have our ELECTED politicians agree on cleaning this up? Let me also fill you in on another American reality. This 'jackpot' of SS 'wealth' that all these illegals are waiting to get, isn't going to be there for them. In fact, in 25 years it won't be there for us legals either, thanks to our trusted legal officials.
No, we don't want them to "pay taxes" we want them gone from a country where they have NO legal right to be.
As far as the "cruelty" of separation from their children, it doesn't seem to concern them when they leave behind their children to come to the USA '"for a better life". They also don't seem to have any difficulty entrusting those children to the tender care of coyotes when they have settled here and wish to bring those children into this country as well.
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