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Old 12-10-2010, 06:20 PM
 
Location: Richland, Washington
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I've always wondered why illegal immigrants are able to qualify for social security and why they're often even more likely to get it than many Americans whom are here legally. The whole concept doesn't even make rational sense since they don't pay taxes and many of them don't even speak english. It would seem better to provide the service to those that actually pay into the government. Why is it that illegals are able to qualify for social security and many times actually get it.
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Old 12-10-2010, 06:22 PM
 
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Because we have stupid, ignorant politicians with bleeding hearts.
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Old 12-10-2010, 06:59 PM
 
Location: Spokane via Sydney,Australia
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I've always wondered why illegal immigrants are able to qualify for social security and why they're often even more likely to get it than many Americans whom are here legally. The whole concept doesn't even make rational sense since they don't pay taxes and many of them don't even speak english. It would seem better to provide the service to those that actually pay into the government. Why is it that illegals are able to qualify for social security and many times actually get it.
The short answer? They're NOT
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Old 12-10-2010, 07:17 PM
 
Location: 3rd rock from the sun
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Why are illegals eligible for social security?
Illegals do not qualify for social security.
Do you have a link showing that they do?
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Old 12-10-2010, 09:08 PM
 
Location: Pa
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Illegals do not qualify for social security.
Do you have a link showing that they do?
Correct. However, illegals get around this through fraud.
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Old 12-10-2010, 10:26 PM
 
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I don't think illegal aliens, per se, are eligible. However if they have US born children they can tag along for the ride. And, if they have enough children, say 5 to 6, they can live a very comfortable middle class life in America and never need to work one day after their children are born.

The illegal alien game plan works like this:

1. Enter the US illegally;
2. Give birth to as many children and as quickly as possible;
3. Collect welfare benefits and social services for their US citizen children;
4. Live off the residual benefits of the children for 18 years;
5. Instruct the children to have children of their own at the age of 17;
6. Live off the residual benefits of their grand children for 18 more years;
7. Instruct the grand children to have children of their own at the age of 17;
8. Live off the great grand children's benefits until death.

This is one of the reasons for the rapid population explosion within the Latino community. Our socialist entitlement laws and open border policies attract and encourage this type of corrupt and immoral behavior, paid for by the American tax payer.
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Old 12-10-2010, 11:16 PM
 
Location: Oklahoma(formerly SoCalif) Originally Mich,
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The only way illegals are able to collect SS, is by inside help,
(1) when a social worker defrauds the system to illegally make them elgible.
(2) Also it's been found that illegals have used SS# of a deceased elderly's and babies
to draw SSI in that persons name.

Neither method lasts very long because eventually the system catches up to them.
I have read where SSI workers have been caught signing illegals up for SSI (for a price)

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Old 12-10-2010, 11:21 PM
 
Location: Oklahoma(formerly SoCalif) Originally Mich,
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I don't think illegal aliens, per se, are eligible. However if they have US born children they can tag along for the ride. And, if they have enough children, say 5 to 6, they can live a very comfortable middle class life in America and never need to work one day after their children are born.

The illegal alien game plan works like this:

1. Enter the US illegally;
2. Give birth to as many children and as quickly as possible;
3. Collect welfare benefits and social services for their US citizen children;
4. Live off the residual benefits of the children for 18 years;
5. Instruct the children to have children of their own at the age of 17;
6. Live off the residual benefits of their grand children for 18 more years;
7. Instruct the grand children to have children of their own at the age of 17;
8. Live off the great grand children's benefits until death.

This is one of the reasons for the rapid population explosion within the Latino community. Our socialist entitlement laws and open border policies attract and encourage this type of corrupt and immoral behavior, paid for by the American tax payer.
There's been articles showing where illegal Mothers were collecting $1500.00 per,head, each month, .
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Old 12-10-2010, 11:33 PM
 
Location: 3rd rock from the sun
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There's been articles showing where illegal Mothers were collecting $1500.00 per,head, each month, .
Those articles have been shown to be incorrect... but that doesn't stop their propagation and repetition.
A Mythical Florida Mom (And Other False Claims About Immigrants) | FactCheck.org

Florida DCF: Your email specifically asks if it is true that a woman would receive $1,500 per child in Florida. I can assure you this information is incorrect. … The maximum benefit for a family with one mother and eight children would be $671 a month.

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Old 12-11-2010, 12:07 AM
 
Location: Oklahoma(formerly SoCalif) Originally Mich,
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Those articles have been shown to be incorrect... but that doesn't stop their propagation and repetition.
A Mythical Florida Mom (And Other False Claims About Immigrants) | FactCheck.org

Florida DCF: Your email specifically asks if it is true that a woman would receive $1,500 per child in Florida. I can assure you this information is incorrect. The maximum benefit for a family with one mother and eight children would be $671 a month.
OK, your right, she only collected $5,368.00 amonth for all of them.
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