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Old 12-19-2010, 05:16 PM
 
Location: Maryland
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“Today, we did not lose. You just ignited our fire to keep on fighting because it is not fair,” Julieta Garibay, one of the original Dreamers said. “We’re tired. We’re fired up, and we will not take it anymore.”
Dreamers' Fire Ignited by Failed DREAM Act Vote - The Note

Then get the hell out of our country. Ingrates!
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Old 12-19-2010, 06:48 PM
 
Location: Spokane via Sydney,Australia
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What I'd REALLY like to see is ICE round up all the illegals that "out" themselves on the media. Ones like Gaby Pacheco (who I'd lay odds is out of status on her F1 visa by now with all her activism) and Nicky Diaz etc etc. Maybe that would send a message that standing up and demanding rights you're not entitled to will just bring you the wrong kind of attention.

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“We are unafraid, and so now, we’re not going to go back in the shadows.”
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Old 12-19-2010, 06:58 PM
 
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They crack me up! Who do they think WE are? They really should look at the big picture and see that they have NOTHING against us. They're fed up? So are we. The only thing they have in their corner are the politicians that will vote for them and of course, that is a powerful thing to have, but we got our votes as well in our corner.

Someone needs to tell these people how it is. The problem is that no one can get the audience like the illegal immigration sympathisers. No one can get on tv and say their passionate speech about how they are getting tired of illegal immigrants and how what they do and how they receive things is not fair. If you do that, you are racist.

Or can we? Maybe that's what we need to do. We need to start giving them a taste of their own medicine. The only difference with us doing it would be that we actually have the right, the place and the reasons to make our demands.
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Old 12-19-2010, 06:59 PM
 
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Oh and little Julieta Garibay shouldn't be allowed to work as a nurse in this country even though she has received her degree for it. How many citizens and legal residents do we have that CAN'T find work? Shouldn't she take that back to whatever country she is from and help her fellow nationals?
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Old 12-19-2010, 07:01 PM
 
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People, we need to start digging up the dirt that hides behind this bill and the people who support it. It is awful odd that people like Harry Reid and Dick Durbin are so for and behind this, something stinks. They aren't doing this for these people, there is something else.
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Old 12-19-2010, 07:09 PM
 
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This is a page from Durbin's site:

U.S. Senator Richard J. Durbin (http://durbin.senate.gov/issues/leg_dreamAct.cfm - broken link)

All of the stories are great, inspiring stories and we WANT those kinds of professionals in our workforce. But, to sign a bill that made it way too easy for people who aren't likely going to have a stable career over time stay here is not the same thing. Why does it take a bill such as the Dream Act to give the people on Durbin's website a chance to stay here in the United States? Those are seemingly very smart people, they look to be just like the average American. They should be able to present their cases to judges and let a judge decide if they can stay here and work towards citizenship.

However, with the Dream Act, people who have not received an education already would just be hanging around in the country, possibly using state and federal welfare assistance and just not fulfilling their end of the bargain. The people on Durbin's page obviously are on a path to success and they have already achieved the first steps to a successful career. However, I am starting to realize that maybe NONE of them should get heard because there are LEGAL residents who need work and they would be taking those jobs from those legal residents. So, I can't really say, but we have always been a country that will hear people's reasons as to why they should be allowed to stay here. But, we can't do that for hundreds of thousands DREAMIES.
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Old 12-20-2010, 06:05 AM
 
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People, we need to start digging up the dirt that hides behind this bill and the people who support it. It is awful odd that people like Harry Reid and Dick Durbin are so for and behind this, something stinks. They aren't doing this for these people, there is something else.
I don't know about Durbin, but Harry Reid is from a state with a large service industry. Think casinos, restaurants, and hotels. Those industries hire lots of low income people. I'm not saying they deliberately hire illegal aliens, but when you consider the high population of illegal aliens in Nevada, in conjunction with all the low paying jobs, I think common sense tells you a lot of them are working at those jobs. I'm sure the people who own those establishments, and make large political contributions to Reid, prefer low wage employees, and therefore he has an incentive to support illegal aliens.
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Old 12-20-2010, 07:13 AM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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I think it's all part of Obama's campaign promise of " a path to citizenship".
This is nothing more than a roundabout way to grant amnesty.
Once those dreamies became citizens they could petition citizenship for their parents and get immediately considered.
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Old 12-20-2010, 07:19 AM
 
Location: Las Vegas
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Oh they're "sick and tired?" So are WE, the legal citizens of this nation. Why don't they go back to their native lands and start a so called "revolution" there? Go home, and take your DREAMs with you.
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Old 12-20-2010, 11:29 AM
 
Location: Spokane via Sydney,Australia
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Personally I'm tired of hearing Dreamies touted as America's "best and brightest", oh really? like there's no AMERICAN kids with the same dreams and aspirations?
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