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Old 01-11-2011, 11:34 AM
 
Location: US, California - federalist
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Where did you get that idea? Anyone born in a state is automatically a citizen of that State. And, since there is no Constitutional basis for a State to care if someone is from out of state or from out of State, why shouldn't a State consider a resident of that State, a citizen for all intents and purposes?

 
Old 01-11-2011, 11:58 AM
 
Location: Maryland
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Where did you get that idea? Anyone born in a state is automatically a citizen of that State. And, since there is no Constitutional basis for a State to care if someone is from out of state or from out of State, why shouldn't a State consider a resident of that State, a citizen for all intents and purposes?

Wow! You are certainly not quoting me.

Seriously, how on earth did you interpret THAT from my posts?

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Old 01-11-2011, 12:14 PM
 
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Where did you get that idea? Anyone born in a state is automatically a citizen of that State. And, since there is no Constitutional basis for a State to care if someone is from out of state or from out of State, why shouldn't a State consider a resident of that State, a citizen for all intents and purposes?

There are numerous things within a state that you have to prove residency for. Someone born in a state would be considered a citizen, as of now.

Residency needs to be established for a DL, college tuition etc. If you are in the country illegally, you are in the state illegally.
 
Old 01-11-2011, 12:22 PM
 
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Can you cite anywhere in our federal Constitution where the several States retain any sovereign power over immigration from without the United States?
 
Old 01-11-2011, 12:28 PM
 
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Can you cite anywhere in our federal Constitution where the several States retain any sovereign power over immigration from without the United States?

Can you post a link to where in our constitution it says that those that cross our borders illegally are citizens?
 
Old 01-11-2011, 12:48 PM
 
Location: Spokane via Sydney,Australia
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Can you post a link to where in our constitution it says that those that cross our borders illegally are citizens?
daniel has his/her own "agenda", best to not engage or risk beating yourself brainless against the nearest wall
 
Old 01-11-2011, 12:57 PM
 
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Can you post a link to where in our constitution it says that those that cross our borders illegally are citizens?
Unlike some other posters, I actually have a rational argument instead of unsubstantiated opinions.

Since there is no Constitutional basis for a State to care if someone is from out of state or from out of State, why shouldn't a State consider a resident of that State, a citizen for all intents and purposes?
 
Old 01-11-2011, 01:03 PM
 
Location: Inis Fada
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Unlike some other posters, I actually have a rational argument instead of unsubstantiated opinions.

Since there is no Constitutional basis for a State to care if someone is from out of state or from out of State, why shouldn't a State consider a resident of that State, a citizen for all intents and purposes?
If I cross the border into this country illegally and take up residence in the state of my choice, it would make me a citizen of that state?

Am I paying income tax to that state or just wiring my off-the-books income back to a country south of the border?

Or am I illegally residing in (insert state here) while a citizen of (insert country here.)
 
Old 01-11-2011, 01:11 PM
 
Location: Inis Fada
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Digging around web sites, it appears that one can reside in CT no matter what their immigration status, but they have to establish citizenship through the US Federal Govt.
 
Old 01-11-2011, 01:13 PM
 
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"illegal citizens"
"undocumented Americans"
An oxymoron if I ever heard one, with special emphasis on the moron.
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