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Old 01-11-2011, 01:15 PM
 
Location: Maryland
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Unlike some other posters, I actually have a rational argument instead of unsubstantiated opinions.

Since there is no Constitutional basis for a State to care if someone is from out of state or from out of State, why shouldn't a State consider a resident of that State, a citizen for all intents and purposes?
Because a state can NOT confer citizenship status on foreign nationals, let alone, ILLEGAL foreign nationals. Only the Federal government has that authority. Why is this so difficult to grasp?

 
Old 01-11-2011, 01:17 PM
 
Location: Maryland
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Digging around web sites, it appears that one can reside in CT no matter what their immigration status, but they have to establish citizenship through the US Federal Govt.
I think he's confusing "residency" with citizenship.
 
Old 01-11-2011, 01:26 PM
 
Location: somewhere in the woods
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how about criminal?
 
Old 01-11-2011, 01:58 PM
 
Location: US, California - federalist
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If I cross the border into this country illegally and take up residence in the state of my choice, it would make me a citizen of that state?
For all intents and purposes, it could be viewed that way because the several States abdicated their sovereign power over immigration to the federal government since 1808.
 
Old 01-11-2011, 01:59 PM
 
Location: US, California - federalist
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An oxymoron if I ever heard one, with special emphasis on the moron.
Why do you believe that?
 
Old 01-11-2011, 02:01 PM
 
Location: US, California - federalist
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Because a state can NOT confer citizenship status on foreign nationals, let alone, ILLEGAL foreign nationals. Only the Federal government has that authority. Why is this so difficult to grasp?
The several States of the Union have no Constitutional basis to care if someone is from out of state or from out of state; how long does it take for someone from out of state to be considered a citizen of the state in which they reside? It is not difficult to grasp.
 
Old 01-11-2011, 02:02 PM
 
Location: US, California - federalist
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I think he's confusing "residency" with citizenship.
What is the difference for a State of our Union?
 
Old 01-11-2011, 04:55 PM
 
Location: Tempe, Az
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If the Feds can cut down Arizona 1070; the Feds can cut down the states for trying to give illegals citizenship.
 
Old 01-12-2011, 10:56 AM
 
Location: Oklahoma(formerly SoCalif) Originally Mich,
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Where did you get that idea? Anyone born in a state is automatically a citizen of that State. And, since there is no Constitutional basis for a State to care if someone is from out of state or from out of State,
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why shouldn't a State consider a resident of that State, a citizen for all intents and purposes?
(1)"Citizen" refers to the country you were born in.

(2) The US does not allow "dual Citizenship" in this country.
 
Old 01-12-2011, 11:06 AM
 
Location: Spokane via Sydney,Australia
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(1)"Citizen" refers to the country you were born in.

(2) The US does not allow "dual Citizenship" in this country.
Unless that is you're an "anchor baby" born of illegal parents from a country such as Mexico that recognises any child born of a citizen outside their country to be a citizen of that country. All Mexican "anchor babies" are dual citizens from birth as it currently stands.
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