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Old 01-24-2011, 08:30 PM
 
Location: Spokane via Sydney,Australia
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As you know if the law was strictly followed (cough cough) anyone caught in this country illegally is liable for deportation AND a ban on legal re-entry. Now for the Dreamies for example who were brought here as kids (though we know full well some weren't exactly kids and not all came alone) by their parents, once they turn 18 1/2 they are liable to a 3 year ban, if over 19 then the ban is for 10 years. Any illegal with a criminal conviction MAY be liable for either the 10 year or a lifetime ban (depending on the violation of law).

I was thinking that it IS possible that if the 3 and 10 year bans were lifted, IF the illegal leaves voluntarily, prior to being "known" to be illegal by the authorities, then quite a lot of illegals MAY self deport knowing they can apply back in their country of origin to come back here LEGALLY, which right now entails at LEAST a 3 year, and more likely a 10 year wait.

I don't believe the lifetime bans should be lifted however.

This isn't an amnesty but it does take away one objection the illegals and their advocates have to the current "path to citizenship" which is that having been here illegally they CAN'T "go back home and get in line legally".

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Old 01-24-2011, 08:44 PM
 
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As you know if the law was strictly followed (cough cough) anyone caught in this country illegally is liable for deportation AND a ban on legal re-entry. Now for the Dreamies for example who were brought here as kids (though we know full well some weren't exactly kids and not all came alone) by their parents, once they turn 18 1/2 they are liable to a 3 year ban, if over 19 then the ban is for 10 years. Any illegal with a criminal conviction MAY be liable for either the 10 year or a lifetime ban (depending on the violation of law).

I was thinking that it IS possible that if the 3 and 10 year bans were lifted, IF the illegal leaves voluntarily, prior to being "known" to be illegal by the authorities, then quite a lot of illegals MAY self deport knowing they can apply back in their country of origin to come back here LEGALLY, which right now entails at LEAST a 3 year, and more likely a 10 year wait.

I don't believe the lifetime bans should be lifted however.

This isn't an amnesty but it does take away one objection the illegals and their advocates have to the current "path to citizenship" which is that having been here illegally they CAN'T "go back home and get in line legally".

Thoughts?
I doubt that would work because we would still have to stick to our annual legal immigration quotas that are in place to suit the best interests of this country. With millions of Americans out of work the likelyhood that they would be able to return here legally are slim to none. Immigrants already waiting to do it the right way in their homelands should not be pushed aside to accomodate those who didn't do it the right way in the first place.
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Old 01-24-2011, 08:50 PM
 
Location: Spokane via Sydney,Australia
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I doubt that would work because we would still have to stick to our annual legal immigration quotas that are in place to suit the best interests of this country. With millions of Americans out of work the likelyhood that they would be able to return here legally are slim to none. Immigrants already waiting to do it the right way in their homelands should not be pushed aside to accomodate those who didn't do it the right way in the first place.
True, but as far as the Mexican Dreamies go, those with a decent education (albeit acheived at the US taxpayers expense) would have a way to parley that into a legal visa, rather than just marching and staging sit-ins and getting the media to write sob stories about their "predicament".
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