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Old 02-01-2011, 07:09 AM
 
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If her husband is an american, why doesn't she just use that to apply for citizenship.
If they try to do the green card marriage AFTER they've received deportation orders, it doesn't work out as well. It looks like she not only got a green card husband but became pregnant trying to beat around the immigration laws.

Defninitely not a case where the husband went through the process to legally bring in his spouse.
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Old 02-01-2011, 11:21 AM
 
Location: Inis Fada
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If they try to do the green card marriage AFTER they've received deportation orders, it doesn't work out as well. It looks like she not only got a green card husband but became pregnant trying to beat around the immigration laws.

Defninitely not a case where the husband went through the process to legally bring in his spouse.

I know of a woman who married her illegal husband, bore him 3 children. They went to legalize him after this. He was deported for 3 years now and has been getting all his paperwork in order in an effort to re-enter legally and apply for citizenship.
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Old 02-01-2011, 11:53 AM
 
Location: Oklahoma(formerly SoCalif) Originally Mich,
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I know of a woman who married her illegal husband, bore him 3 children. They went to legalize him after this. He was deported for 3 years now and has been getting all his paperwork in order in an effort to re-enter legally and apply for citizenship.
He'll need to have a cane or walker and some depends with him, because he has a long wait ahead of him.
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Old 02-01-2011, 12:09 PM
 
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The Child[when born here] has that RIGHT now...why wait for a law?

The 14th amendment to the US Consitution-

Section 1. All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside...

End of discussion, this it it, you are born here, you are a US citizen...
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Old 02-01-2011, 12:15 PM
 
Location: Fort Worth, Texas
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The Child[when born here] has that RIGHT now...why wait for a law?

The 14th amendment to the US Consitution-

Section 1. All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside...
Yep, and that is about to change. Bank on it. No more anchor babies.
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Old 02-01-2011, 12:37 PM
 
Location: Spokane via Sydney,Australia
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I know of a woman who married her illegal husband, bore him 3 children. They went to legalize him after this. He was deported for 3 years now and has been getting all his paperwork in order in an effort to re-enter legally and apply for citizenship.
If he has no criminal record, he'll still have received a 10 year ban having been caught and deported, so yeah it'll be a LONG wait. Oh and btw he'd be applying for a greencard, not citizenship.

I still think it would be a good idea (per my thread on this) if they granted ban waivers for those that self deport and then apply to come here legally.
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Old 02-01-2011, 01:02 PM
 
Location: Don't be a cry baby!
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This is such a load of BS as further in the story it says her husband is a USC which means her children would be USC even if the laws were changed, so I have to ask, what exactly is the point of this article?

Illegal Mother: My Unborn Child Deserves Citizenship (http://www.myfoxphoenix.com/dpp/news/immigration/illegal-mother-citizenship-1-27-2011?obref=obinsite - broken link)
They might have you believe this;
The point is feel sorry for this Mexican, just because she broke the law, lives here illegelly, is spitting out anchor babies and lives off of the sweat of real American labor doesn't mean we need to enforce the law.
Lets just enforce the laws she wants.

Toss her and her kids back over the fence, she's here illegally, like a drug or a weapon or a Cuban cigar!

Adios muchachos!
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Old 02-01-2011, 01:49 PM
 
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End of discussion, this it it, you are born here, you are a US citizen...
That may be the way it is now but that is all going to change. You should have bolded the qualifier part and that is "AND" subject to the jurisdiction thereof.
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Old 02-01-2011, 02:08 PM
 
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That may be the way it is now but that is all going to change. You should have bolded the qualifier part and that is "AND" subject to the jurisdiction thereof.
For those who want to use nonsensical creative definitions of "jurisdiction" to do an end-run on the Constitution, “Jurisdiction” is defined in Black’s Law Dictionary, in relevant part, as: “A government’s general power to exercise authority over all persons and things within its territory.” Consequently, all persons, citizens, resident aliens, legal visitors and illegal immigrants alike within US are subject to the jurisdiction (general power) of the US unless they have some sort of immunity. This is first-semester law school and so well-recognized that there are literally thousands of cases affirming this. Lacking jurisdiction, a government. through its courts, cannot exercise power over the individual in question, which is manifestly not the case with illegal immigrants.

If people want to change it, then it should only be done by actually amending the constitution instead of using clearly absurd and nonsensical definitions of "jurisdiction". It is troubling that many of the people who claim to respect the Constitution are so willing to defy its plain meaning. Don't like it, then amend it!
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Old 02-01-2011, 02:14 PM
 
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That may be the way it is now but that is all going to change. You should have bolded the qualifier part and that is "AND" subject to the jurisdiction thereof.
Not "may be the way it is now", it is the way it is now.

You can't chop and dice the United States Constitution as you see fit. As the previous poster stated, if you claim to respect the Constitution then respect and abide by the entire document, not just the parts you like.

Be careful what you wish for.
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